Breaking A tenancy Agreement
Discussion
Some advice needed....
I'm coming to the end of a 12 month tenancy agreement. Have agreed a price on a house in the last few days. Tenancy agreement runs out in early september so I'd like to extend the stay to the end of October to give us time to complete on the house.
The landlord (who's had our flat on the market since May and had no viewings) has refused to allow us to stay til end of Oct and offered us 2 alternatives:
1. Sign a new 12 month agreement which we would have to honour until new tenants were found.
or
2. Pay £600 per week to stay til end of Oct (about £3K).
Neither option sounds good to me.
What would happen if we just didnt move out til 31 oct? She would presumably start legal proceedings - how much would it cost (we would obviously not contest them, or if we did I'd do it myself in order to delay proceedings until 31 Oct). How long would I likely be able to delay things?
This is hypothetical just in order to know what my options are....
TIA
I'm coming to the end of a 12 month tenancy agreement. Have agreed a price on a house in the last few days. Tenancy agreement runs out in early september so I'd like to extend the stay to the end of October to give us time to complete on the house.
The landlord (who's had our flat on the market since May and had no viewings) has refused to allow us to stay til end of Oct and offered us 2 alternatives:
1. Sign a new 12 month agreement which we would have to honour until new tenants were found.
or
2. Pay £600 per week to stay til end of Oct (about £3K).
Neither option sounds good to me.
What would happen if we just didnt move out til 31 oct? She would presumably start legal proceedings - how much would it cost (we would obviously not contest them, or if we did I'd do it myself in order to delay proceedings until 31 Oct). How long would I likely be able to delay things?
This is hypothetical just in order to know what my options are....
TIA
Your landlord is playing a game, would they rather have some money or an empty house awaiting buyer/tenant. Call their bluff. Offer them the same rent for the extra period or move to temporary accommodation when the lease ends. You will not break a new tenancy easily.
Or offer an extra £50 a week as a bonus for the brief extension. Thus compensating them and saving you the hassle.
I've been in a similar position, took a short let for 6 weeks until my new place was ready in the end. Do NOT consider signing a new contract.
Or offer an extra £50 a week as a bonus for the brief extension. Thus compensating them and saving you the hassle.
I've been in a similar position, took a short let for 6 weeks until my new place was ready in the end. Do NOT consider signing a new contract.
With my tennants I did a 6 month agreement then it went per month, they have been in since 2008. Law will be different down you way tho.
She is being a muppet asking for another 12 months, call her bluff and leave once up! Certainly would not stay after as could impact elsewhere on you.
She is being a muppet asking for another 12 months, call her bluff and leave once up! Certainly would not stay after as could impact elsewhere on you.
Marty Funkhouser said:
Famous Graham said:
No idea on the legal side of things, but she sounds like a bit of a berk if she won't entertain the possibility of a one month extension.
She's been difficult from the start - I've even offered to pay 10% above the advertised rate on the extension.DO NOT sign a new one year.
Tell her to poke it, put your stuff in Big Yellow and go and live in a hotel.
Council Baby said:
Your landlord is playing a game, would they rather have some money or an empty house awaiting buyer/tenant. Call their bluff. Offer them the same rent for the extra period or move to temporary accommodation when the lease ends. You will not break a new tenancy easily.
Or offer an extra £50 a week as a bonus for the brief extension. Thus compensating them and saving you the hassle.
I've been in a similar position, took a short let for 6 weeks until my new place was ready in the end. Do NOT consider signing a new contract.
I've offered more than the existing rent - she said no.Or offer an extra £50 a week as a bonus for the brief extension. Thus compensating them and saving you the hassle.
I've been in a similar position, took a short let for 6 weeks until my new place was ready in the end. Do NOT consider signing a new contract.
She cut the conversation off when I was on the phone (the line just went dead) initially I assumed she'd lost signal but she never got back to us - I left 2 messages & e mailed her on Monday - no reply.
Then the agent calls to say she's been in and these are her offers.
Bordering on bizarre IMO.
Soovy said:
I think I see the problem.
DO NOT sign a new one year.
Tell her to poke it, put your stuff in Big Yellow and go and live in a hotel.
This exact problem was in one of last weekend's papers (proper broadsheet type one!). Lawyerly type adviser recommeded just to stay put, pay the rent according to existing terms and make sure you're out in less than two months.DO NOT sign a new one year.
Tell her to poke it, put your stuff in Big Yellow and go and live in a hotel.
V8mate said:
This exact problem was in one of last weekend's papers (proper broadsheet type one!). Lawyerly type adviser recommeded just to stay put, pay the rent according to existing terms and make sure you're out in less than two months.
You cant remember which paper it was can you?V8mate said:
Your deposit is lodged safely and independently?
Yup - with this lot:http://www.mydeposits.co.uk/
So, she will either be left with an empty flat earning her nothing, or an extra month where she earns more than in any previous month? What a retard, she clearly thinks that by giving you such extreme options that she has it all to gain.
I thought most agreements went on to a rolling agreement after the term?
I would give notice and leave. Put stuff in storage and find somewhere to live for a month- family? friends? Even short-term places; even if the minimum is 3 months, surely this is better value than paying over the odds to some awkward bint (plus contingency in case the house takes an extra couple of weeks to go through).
I thought most agreements went on to a rolling agreement after the term?
I would give notice and leave. Put stuff in storage and find somewhere to live for a month- family? friends? Even short-term places; even if the minimum is 3 months, surely this is better value than paying over the odds to some awkward bint (plus contingency in case the house takes an extra couple of weeks to go through).
Of course you can make it rather difficult to show potential tenants around, leave the place in a mess etc... Madness. I had a good relationship with my last landlord to the extend I'd tell him to delay viewings until i'd tidyed the place up, showed the potential tenants around, took them to the local pub and told them what a nice street/area it was.
He got a nice couple in (that I'd sussed out as ideal tenants) at full asking price.
He even took us for a beer when we finally left.
He got a nice couple in (that I'd sussed out as ideal tenants) at full asking price.
He even took us for a beer when we finally left.
STW2010 said:
So, she will either be left with an empty flat earning her nothing, or an extra month where she earns more than in any previous month? What a retard, she clearly thinks that by giving you such extreme options that she has it all to gain.
I thought most agreements went on to a rolling agreement after the term?
I would give notice and leave. Put stuff in storage and find somewhere to live for a month- family? friends? Even short-term places; even if the minimum is 3 months, surely this is better value than paying over the odds to some awkward bint (plus contingency in case the house takes an extra couple of weeks to go through).
Well thats what we'll have to do if push comes to shove - just dont want the hassle of moving twice in 6 weeks if it can be avoided!I thought most agreements went on to a rolling agreement after the term?
I would give notice and leave. Put stuff in storage and find somewhere to live for a month- family? friends? Even short-term places; even if the minimum is 3 months, surely this is better value than paying over the odds to some awkward bint (plus contingency in case the house takes an extra couple of weeks to go through).
siwil1 said:
You dont say if you are a couple or a family, But if you have no kids I would stick my stuff in storage and become Alan Partridge ie live in a hotel for a month.
You could pull off a great scam with a large plate!
With kids it would be harder.
I have a partner and she's expecting in December.You could pull off a great scam with a large plate!
With kids it would be harder.
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