question re toilet flush..

[petemurphy]

tenant says..

The toilet flush is on its way out- sometimes you need to try and flush three times. Its slowly been going over the last year

is it a case of taking the lid of and tightening something?

thks

[R1 CKY]

Probably the diaphragm in the syphon needs replacing.

The syphon will probably need removing, which can be a pain. Whilst you have it out I'd suggest replacing it with a Dudley Turbo 88 Syphon.

Its a two part syphon than can be removed in seconds without draining the cistern.

[petemurphy]

R1 CKY said:

Probably the diaphragm in the syphon needs replacing.

The syphon will probably need removing, which can be a pain. Whilst you have it out I'd suggest replacing it with a Dudley Turbo 88 Syphon.

Its a two part syphon than can be removed in seconds without draining the cistern.

sounds complicated if i turn up and have a look is it something i can get from bnq and fix myself?
thks

[Gingerbread Man]

I took to long to reply! Listen to Ricky. Although buying a dump valve over a syphon maybe worth considering.

It's most likely a split diaphragm in the syphon.

• It's a case of isolating the water to the toilet.
• Remove the cistern from the pan.
• Empty water from cistern.
• Remove syphon.
• Renew diaphragm.
• Refit and seal syphon.
• Refit cistern.
• Re attach water supply and maybe overflow if it has one.
• Test for leaks and flushability.

Any plumbing shop will sell new diaphragms, or you can cut a new diaphragm from a thick polythene bag like a rubbish sack or small 25Kg bag of gravel or similar.

If you're down the plumbing shop, it is wise to buy a new donut while there as these tend to never reseat the same and cause leaks.

[jas xjr]

I would turn up and take a look then replace like with like. Pretty easy to do

[petemurphy]

thanks chaps will have a look - watch out for the ive flooded my flat thread coming soon

[petemurphy]

Gingerbread Man said:

I took to long to reply! Listen to Ricky. Although buying a dump valve over a syphon maybe worth considering.

It's most likely a split diaphragm in the syphon.

• It's a case of isolating the water to the toilet.
• Remove the cistern from the pan.
• Empty water from cistern.
• Remove syphon.
• Renew diaphragm.
• Refit and seal syphon.
• Refit cistern.
• Re attach water supply and maybe overflow if it has one.
• Test for leaks and flushability.

Any plumbing shop will sell new diaphragms, or you can cut a new diaphragm from a thick polythene bag like a rubbish sack or small 25Kg bag of gravel or similar.

If you're down the plumbing shop, it is wise to buy a new donut while there as these tend to never reseat the same and cause leaks.

when u say seal syphon do u need something to do this?

[Gingerbread Man]

petemurphy said:

when u say seal syphon do u need something to do this?

There is a rubber conical washer that is used to seal the syphon to the cistern. You can use silicone or similar as a bit of a back up, but it should seal without.

[petemurphy]

Gingerbread Man said:

There is a rubber conical washer that is used to seal the syphon to the cistern. You can use silicone or similar as a bit of a back up, but it should seal without.

cool thanks - will bung a dead rat in there to seal it