Render Question?
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speed8

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297 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Some render fell off the wall a couple of days ago. Looks like it was maybe a poor patch up job when the previous owners had windows replaced. It also looks like some more might come down soon.

Before I start calling people out to suck air through their teeth and tell me that the whole house needs done hehe can somebody give me an idea of how big a job this might be. The rest of the house render is in fairly good condition, it's only this area thats starting to fall apart.

If it's a big job is it something that could go through the buildings insurance?

Cheers


jas xjr

11,309 posts

263 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Looks like it was bodged up when the window was put in. In that case have it chopped back to where it is solid and re applied. Not too hard to do as long as you can get to it easily

dickymint

28,540 posts

282 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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If it's just that area. Half a days work for a plasterer but would need 2 visits. Does look like a bodged job - no render beads used (or is it a listed builing)?

Edited: Not sure if you've got a lintel in there scratchchin


Edited by dickymint on Saturday 27th August 10:48

speed8

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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Not a listed building, just a fairly standard 1930's semi.

GG89

3,691 posts

210 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Just a matter of hacking off any loose render, scratch coat one day then out when it's dry to re-render. Quite often when one bit goes it loosens off a lot of the other render so you don't really know the extent of the damage until you start hacking off.

speed8

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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Cheers all.

Rough idea of costs? Few hundred quid?

It's an upstairs window so would scaffolding be required or just up a set of ladders.

jas xjr

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263 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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I hate working off ladders . Ended up in a & e last time I used them.
One lift of scaffolding should not cost much. Two days labour and next to nothing in materials.
Ok I reckon £400. Depends where you are in the country

dickymint

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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Off a ladder and £150 max.

TallPaul

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282 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Whats the legal maximum height you can work off a ladder at?

jas xjr

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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TallPaul said:
Whats the legal maximum height you can work off a ladder at?
Don't know about legal but with some construction firms ladders and steps are for access only.

dickymint

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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TallPaul said:
Whats the legal maximum height you can work off a ladder at?
There isn't one.

Just keep climbing till your bum squeeks.

dickymint

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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The mates I work with have their own "quick-stage" scaffolding. On a job like that we would only use it if it made the job easier overall. Certainly wouldn't charge for it. A scaffold firm would charge about £250 for that!

My advice to you Speed8 (if you have no builder mates). Take a walk/drive around your area and have a chat with anybody that you see working in your area. Generally you would find somebody quite happy to "fit you in" and do a couple of hours over 2 evenings for some extra pocket money.

As an example - Was painting a large house last month and the owners lean to shed wall needed a top coat of render (scratch coat already done by somebody who didn't come back). I asked him if he wanted it done as it would've made our work look shoddy. He was delighted when my mate came round the next day did the job in 2 hours and charged him £30. Everybody happy. thumbup This is how we work in our town - we help each other, it generates more work and keeps the work local.

GG89

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210 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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dickymint said:
The mates I work with have their own "quick-stage" scaffolding. On a job like that we would only use it if it made the job easier overall. Certainly wouldn't charge for it. A scaffold firm would charge about £250 for that!

My advice to you Speed8 (if you have no builder mates). Take a walk/drive around your area and have a chat with anybody that you see working in your area. Generally you would find somebody quite happy to "fit you in" and do a couple of hours over 2 evenings for some extra pocket money.

As an example - Was painting a large house last month and the owners lean to shed wall needed a top coat of render (scratch coat already done by somebody who didn't come back). I asked him if he wanted it done as it would've made our work look shoddy. He was delighted when my mate came round the next day did the job in 2 hours and charged him £30. Everybody happy. thumbup This is how we work in our town - we help each other, it generates more work and keeps the work local.
£30! I hope he didn't buy the materials..

roofer

5,136 posts

235 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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TallPaul said:
Whats the legal maximum height you can work off a ladder at?
Short duration work with 3 points of contact at all times, but its domestic, so rule book goes out the window.

King Herald

23,501 posts

240 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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speed8 said:
Cheers all.

Rough idea of costs? Few hundred quid?

It's an upstairs window so would scaffolding be required or just up a set of ladders.
Depends where you live. For me about twenty quid in labour and some sticks for scaffolding. thumbuphehe





And the quality of work is incredible.


speed8

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297 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Cheers all. Not worth involving insurance for a few hundred quid.

All the builders in the family are up north so I'll see if any friends have a local recommendation.

albundy89

496 posts

262 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Looking back to the original pic that is a total bodge.
Despite opinions to the contrary scaffolding is needed.
Cut off affected render,scratch coat,leave to dry, then re render.

dickymint

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Saturday 27th August 2011
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albundy89 said:
Despite opinions to the contrary scaffolding is needed.
Why?



King Herald

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Sunday 28th August 2011
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dickymint said:
albundy89 said:
Despite opinions to the contrary scaffolding is needed.
Why?
'ealth and safety mate, innit.

Seriously, you'd have a job repairing that from a ladder, and any tradesman would refuse to.

andy43

12,636 posts

278 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Needs doing before winter sets in, or more will get damp behind it, freeze, and then larger areas might start falling off.