Kill Everything Weedkiller
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Got an patch of garden which is over grown with brambles, grasses and knot weed kind of stuff along with a few random bushes that don't matter if they get cleared along the way. Other than the fire option what the best way to clear it and keep it clear ie residual weedkiller. Assuming no nice farmer/landscaper want to sell me some industrial strength stuff, it will need to be shop stuff, Clear Ground or something like that. Unless anyone has some Paraquat hidden away.....
Got some "Clinic Ace" from our local farm supplier. 125ml per 5litre of water so it is strong stuff. It takes days to work but it does the job. Seemingly all weedkiller is now systemic meaning it only kills growing plants and does not prevent future growth. They could not recommend a kill all for along time weedkiller, which is what I was after.
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Silent1 said:
Glyphosate should do it, commonly known as roundup
there are plenty of generic glyphosates now, like Clinic Ace mentioned above.I have a bit of a problem with my neighbours weeds encroaching on my garden myself. I'll have to see what is in the chemical store at work on Tuesday
Thanks for the replies, have the mix it yourself Round Up but doesn't seem to touch it just kills off some of the small grass which quickly grows back even with a double strength mixture.
Will find our local farm suppliers and see what they have and will sell to me.
Found this 'Clear Ground' which is supposed to kill everything and stop it coming back for 4-6 months but not sure how good it is.
Will find our local farm suppliers and see what they have and will sell to me.
Found this 'Clear Ground' which is supposed to kill everything and stop it coming back for 4-6 months but not sure how good it is.
MartinQ said:
Excuse me for butting in but we've got a fairly large patch of weeds at the foot of our garden. Unfortunately it has a sycamore tree in the middle. Will a strong weedkiller have an adverse effect on the tree?
You need to differentiate between contact and systemic (translocated). Contact will kill what it touches but nothing else; translocated will travel inside the plant. However I doubt a bit of overspray would do any long term damage. If you're worried about vapour drift from the surroundings, avoid a hot day.MartinQ said:
Excuse me for butting in but we've got a fairly large patch of weeds at the foot of our garden. Unfortunately it has a sycamore tree in the middle. Will a strong weedkiller have an adverse effect on the tree?
Have only read the blurb for it but this clear ground stuff reckons it can be used around trees, roses etc without killing them so long as you don't get a lot on the leaves.otolith said:
The EU has banned everything of any use. Glyphosate has no persistence, and stuff like pathclear which claims to suppress regrowth has proven virtually useless in my experience.
Largely true but glyphosate's entire point is that is NOT persistent - ie you can replant afterwards. It was never intended as a 'path and drive' weedkiller.The classic 'persistent' products usually contained simazine and aminotriazole but I expect these no longer exist in the garden market.
Quite - as well as the subsequent development of glyphosate tolerant GM strains, so you can spray your crop and kill only weeds. It's good at doing what it does, but if you go looking at the labels in B&Q you find that it's pretty much all you can buy. I only ever use herbicides on the drive and patio - when I want to kill weeds and then plant, I weed by hand, so glyphosate has no upside for me. I don't think the evidence of harm for sodium chlorate was strong enough to ban it with no acceptable alternative.
Simpo Two said:
otolith said:
The EU has banned everything of any use. Glyphosate has no persistence, and stuff like pathclear which claims to suppress regrowth has proven virtually useless in my experience.
Largely true but glyphosate's entire point is that is NOT persistent - ie you can replant afterwards. It was never intended as a 'path and drive' weedkiller.The classic 'persistent' products usually contained simazine and aminotriazole but I expect these no longer exist in the garden market.
PigFilth said:
Simazine isn't even available in the ag market. Nor is paraquat.
I remember my mother mixing up paraquat in a glass jar with an old paintbrush and painting dandelions with it. 'Don't touch this, it's poisonous' she told me. And being sensible I didn't...A good way of 'weeding out' stupid people
NB Paraquat and diquat were available into fairly recent times as Pathclear and Weedol.
Silent1 said:
Looks like I could do a good job of selling small quantities of my ag chemicals to garden users
You could but it would be awfully illegal. But then, everything is illegal these days...Y282 said:
isn't there anything common that isn't weedkiller that you could use? petrol or something?
That would be a good 'total contact' herbicide but wouldn't touch the roots, so perennial weeds will just smile and grow back. Plus, anything you use as a herbicide must be approved for use as such - see above. But that is the offical line and as I left the industry in 1988, JFDI IMHO 
Simpo Two said:
That would be a good 'total contact' herbicide but wouldn't touch the roots, so perennial weeds will just smile and grow back. Plus, anything you use as a herbicide must be approved for use as such - see above. But that is the offical line and as I left the industry in 1988, JFDI IMHO
hypothetically if one didn't give a toss and just wanted to get rid of stuff, what could you use? caustic soda? nitromors? no, not nitromors, it's hopeless. but something else brutal?Simpo Two said:
Poison the soil for as long as possible you mean?
yeah, i'll give you an example. in front of my shed/workshop i laid a very small patio just onto sharp sand. there are dandelions and all sorts of crap that keep growing through and round the slabs and it pisses me right off.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff