Any Alarm Fitters in the Oxted Area??
Any Alarm Fitters in the Oxted Area??
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markjo

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202 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Had a new double glazed door fitted, now need to get the door switch wired back up, couple of companies i contacted are wanting silly money for a very simple job...

cheers....

Meeja

8,290 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Do you really need someone, or could you DIY? Door contacts are not too difficult to fit.

Aviz

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193 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Meeja said:
Do you really need someone, or could you DIY? Door contacts are not too difficult to fit.
+1

Usually 2 wires, and it doesn;t even matter which way round they go!

Meeja

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Friday 2nd September 2011
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Aviz said:
Meeja said:
Do you really need someone, or could you DIY? Door contacts are not too difficult to fit.
+1

Usually 2 wires, and it doesn;t even matter which way round they go!
Only on a crap system.

If it is two wires and a proper system, it may be a Fully Supervised Loop... Which means you need to fit resistors, and be very careful how you wire it.

Four wires is more common, and means you have a double pole system... An alarm circuit and a tamper circuit.

Doesn't make it too difficult, you just have to apply logic and common sense.

markjo

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202 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Problem is not with the wires just have two black and red but getting the main box reset and reponding again. Just shows tamper at the moment frown

Westy Pre-Lit

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227 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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What system do you have ?

Some systems allow you to clear a tamper fault simply by pressing a reset button or by using your user codes.

Where as another, if the system was professionally installed, the engineer code will probably have been changed from the default code. If you don't know the code then the whole system may need to be defaulted then reprogrammed.

Others will allow you to just default the codes themselves.

It all depends on the system you have really.

HTH. smile

NiceCupOfTea

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275 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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^^ This is the man to speak to! thumbup

markjo

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202 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Thanks for the help, the system is a accenta 8...


Westy Pre-Lit

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227 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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NiceCupOfTea said:
^^ This is the man to speak to! thumbup
hehe Me knows nuffick really.

Am busy all day today but if you don't get any further help I will try to give you a few pointers later.

As it stands though, as yet I have never needed to user an engineer reset code on the older version of that system. Should just reset by typing in the user code then pressing the reset button IIRC.

As already said, sounds as though at the moment the tamper circuit at the contact is broken which will need re-twisting up or resistors need replacing if previously used.

I take it you haven't opened up the panel.

markjo

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202 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Thanks again no I have not opened the panel, will take a pic to show the wires when I am back home, the panel seems dead lights up has the power light and tamper light but does not beep when pressing the keys anymore..

markjo

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Thursday 8th September 2011
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Sorry it took a while this is what i have..





The sensor was in the door, and connected to the rest of the wiring via the red abd black wire..

thx
Mark

Westy Pre-Lit

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227 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Sorry Mark only just noticed you have posted up the pics.

Looking at the top picture the zone is run on the red and yellow cores, the tamper is on the blue and black cores.

Looking at the second picture it doesn't really make sense to me how that would work and be the cause of the tamper, if you only have red and black cores to connect up to.

Can you give a wider angle ? Where to the cables go that go behind the skirting ?

Judging by the pic I can't see any resistors connected to top of the contact, so I would suggest the tamper is run on its own loop. Also I'm sure you are aware that the contact should have a plastic cover plate covering the reed switch.

markjo

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Sorry for the delay, phone outage smile




markjo

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Thursday 6th October 2011
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bump smile

fridaypassion

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252 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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I cant make much sense of that can you get access to another door contact and copy the wiring colours? If you can get an up close shot of an existing contact I can talk you through it. If your not getting any reaction off the keypad you probably have a tamper fault. Where the cables come up for the door try twisting different colours together. When the tamper is cleared you'll hear a beep and then the keypad should work again.

Not sure why there is a resistor in that connector block on this system either....

Driller

8,310 posts

302 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Hi there, here is a link to the Accenta 8 manual

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/A...

This will be dead easy to do and I'm quite happy to talk you through it by telephone if you like. Just PM me smile (I've installed a few alarm systems in my time wink)

markjo

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Thursday 6th October 2011
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thanks guys, will take a look when i get home...

Driller

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302 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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fridaypassion said:
I cant make much sense of that can you get access to another door contact and copy the wiring colours? If you can get an up close shot of an existing contact I can talk you through it. If your not getting any reaction off the keypad you probably have a tamper fault. Where the cables come up for the door try twisting different colours together. When the tamper is cleared you'll hear a beep and then the keypad should work again.

Not sure why there is a resistor in that connector block on this system either....
You pipped me to the post biggrin

markjo

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202 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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thanks fella's traced the wire back and found the black and red, put them together and the tamper has gone away. Guess i need to get a new door module, anyone know where to get one from?
Also does anyone know how to set a new program? I wanted to just protect the garage during the night, but i dont have that option

cheers again
Mark

Driller

8,310 posts

302 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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You can get door contacts from all over the place on the net. I like the YEND21 from Knights Fire and Security, it's compact and has selectable resistance for FSL/EOL stuff (although you'll just leave the jumper off for the Accenta as by memory they don't have a particular zone resistance but could be handy if ever you change your control panel.)

These guys are pretty good http://www.hunters-wholesalers.co.uk/small-surface...

For part setting you'll find all you need to know in the manual link I gave you above.