Small outside build not needing planning?
Small outside build not needing planning?
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jazzybee

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3,056 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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I am in the process of moving home. The house I am buying (detached) has space to the side of the kitchen's external door of about 20'x10' narrowing to 7'. Now, I really need to accommodate a utility/Laundry room pretty much immediately after moving in (hopefully mid to late November). This space seems ideal, and I think we could make do with a simple shed/temporary building with some modifications to accommodate hot and cold water supply and electricity (which I will have to arrange supply of) and water drainage. The wife does not mind this approach, even if it is for 2 or 3 years while we work out whether we could build a larger, more permanent extension. Our current arrangement is a large lean-to which I had built to the back of the garage which was handed over to become the effective utility room. The new house has the garages on the other side of the house and are to be for cars only this time...

So, any suggestions on simple, warm and flexible pre-fabricated buildings that could be plonked into place and modified? or suggestions on limitations on what I can have built without having to wait for planning permission?

On the other side of the fence is the back garden of a neighboring house - no other building is within 50' of the space I want to use

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

306 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Quick phone call to the appropriate planning officer should sort it. The rules differ from council to council.

ND_007

201 posts

283 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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I am currently looking into extensions and for once found one of the govmt websites useful.

There is a whole load of things you can do without planning, provided they meet the contraints placed in the permitted development guide. I was quite surprised to be honest.

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/common...

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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I'd have thought a small shed with some polystyrene insulation held in place by battens would do the job. You could add a greenhouse heater to keep temps just above freezing. Sheds don't normally require planning

Marty63

2,347 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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My mate is in the process of having a concrete sectional double garage put up.

Going to be multi use building

Waiting for slab to go off then build starts next week

he is using these guys, cost in the region of 3K

that's delivery and install.


http://www.whiterosebuildings.co.uk/

jazzybee

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3,056 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Very interesting responses, Thanks. Reading the Planning Portal document, it appears I have quite a bit of potential, maybe even for an additional summer house or even a 3rd garage! I did not think I could have anything built on a foundation or concrete base - but that may not be the case. Will call the local planning office tomorrow.

mk1fan

10,860 posts

249 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Firstly check that the permitted development rights for the property haven't been removed / reduced.

Secondly, why not just build a side extension from the off instead of wasting money on a temporary solution.

dave_s13

13,994 posts

293 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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My 2 storey rear and single storey side extension didn't need planning.

I would echo the above and try to avoid the temp job and just crack on with something permanent. Don't start any work now that exposes the whole rear of the house tho. It's not fun at all when It's -13 outside.

steve2

1,848 posts

242 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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dave_s13 said:
My 2 storey rear and single storey side extension didn't need planning.

I would echo the above and try to avoid the temp job and just crack on with something permanent. Don't start any work now that exposes the whole rear of the house tho. It's not fun at all when It's -13 outside.
I am suprised that a two stopry build did not need planning permission !!

rovermorris999

5,323 posts

213 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I've built a 4 car garage and a single garage and workshop, both cavity walled and kept to under 4m high. Neither required planning but they do need bulding control if over a certain floor area. If your plot is big enough and you meet a few other rules you can build garages and swimming pools to your heart's content. Additions to your house are likely to need planning once you have exceeded your permitted development rights. Even then, there are restrictions, all on the Planning Portal which I found very useful.

sparkythecat

8,070 posts

279 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I'm curious as to why do you think you urgently 'need' a washing/utility room ?
Unless it's a new build, previous occupants have survived without one.
Like other posters, I wouldn't bother with the expense and hassle of a temporary solution.
Planning permission should only take a few weeks so either a washer and/or drier in the kitchen or a weekly laundrette trip should suffice.

jazzybee

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3,056 posts

273 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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sparkythecat said:
I'm curious as to why do you think you urgently 'need' a washing/utility room ?
Unless it's a new build, previous occupants have survived without one.
Like other posters, I wouldn't bother with the expense and hassle of a temporary solution.
Planning permission should only take a few weeks so either a washer and/or drier in the kitchen or a weekly laundrette trip should suffice.
I here you all about the Temp solution - but, if I go for planning permission, I would rather go for something 2-storey to provide a walk-in closet and en suite shower room above the Utility room. Then I may as well add a Sun Room at the back as well Then I have the problem of having to leave a 2M gap to the boundary wall... Plus the cost is more than I want to spend right now. I have to re-decorate, re-wire the whole house, new Kitchen and Bathroom as well. Currently the washing machine is in the Bathroom upstairs and there is no dryer - and my wife is BIG on cooking, so don't really want to give up any of the existing cooking space to our washing machine and big American Dryer. Really, I am thinking it may take a few years to get the permission I want, and the money needed to do a bigger job...