*** this is what my Solar Panels generated today ***
*** this is what my Solar Panels generated today ***
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khushy

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3,977 posts

243 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Just thought we should have a REAL (not hyped by the installers) "this is what my Solar Panels Generated today" thread . . . I will start off . . . .

Our system cost £10k - finished yesterday!

(system size - todays generation - todays revenue earned)

3.42Kw - 11.43Kwh - £5.31

Edited by khushy on Friday 28th October 18:59

Toilet Duck

1,365 posts

209 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Can you also add what the system cost you to have fitted please?

Paul Drawmer

5,124 posts

291 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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One day's production is pointless.

Try this for size:
Cost £13,700
Income over last complete year £1747
Then to make it comparable you need to know:
system size: 3.885kWp; Orientation 175; slope 30. Latitude 51:59

It's all academic anyway as the likelihood of getting a new system installed and registered before early December is a bit remote, and after that the FIT for new installs will be much less.

To compare your output with others, this website does a very good job:
http://www.bdpv.fr


khushy

Original Poster:

3,977 posts

243 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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to you - it maybe pointless - but others not so - I like to see gains on a daily basis!

PLUS - the weblink is in FRENCH FFS!!!!

tongue out

limjamrace

857 posts

176 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Press the Union Jack.

It all means nothing to me still..I suppose if i dedicated all my energy(pun) i could get to grips with all this.
£13750 seems fine by me if it means cheap electricity on a large household scale.
I live on a Narrowboat and pay about £5 a week to the Marina owners off the meter outside the boat.Which i begrudge because he is a ****.
Be nice to make my own leccy,but not possible to selloff any surplus!

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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limjamrace said:
Press the Union Jack.

It all means nothing to me still..I suppose if i dedicated all my energy(pun) i could get to grips with all this.
£13750 seems fine by me if it means cheap electricity on a large household scale.
I live on a Narrowboat and pay about £5 a week to the Marina owners off the meter outside the boat.Which i begrudge because he is a ****.
Be nice to make my own leccy,but not possible to selloff any surplus!
very easy to make your own yourself.

Solar panels could be used for heating water or a wind generator.

I think this solar panel stuff is a bit of a rip off, the technology is there for most people to make themselves. The big cost is the connector to the grid.

limjamrace

857 posts

176 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Yes i agree with you there.

A lot of boat people have given up on solar panels and windy fans. After the outlay there isn't much recall.

dirkgently

2,160 posts

255 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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The Spruce goose said:
very easy to make your own yourself.

Solar panels could be used for heating water or a wind generator.

I think this solar panel stuff is a bit of a rip off, the technology is there for most people to make themselves. The big cost is the connector to the grid.
But why would you want a warm wind generator?;)

Eggman

1,253 posts

235 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Enjoy the lolly whilst it lasts, because the government intends to cut the subsidy by half.

Instead of being given 43p/kWh of tax money, you'll soon only be getting 21p, which I call a step in the right direction.

I hope they scrap the scandalous £500M subsidy on offshore wind next.

Mojooo

13,288 posts

204 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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The changes will only affect new installs registered after december this year

existing people will stay o nthe current rate - unless the govt change that later as well.

jonnylarge

295 posts

193 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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That announcement, leaked or otherwise, is a pain. We were waiting until early next year to take the plunge, aware that the feed-in tariff was going to be cut in April 2012.

I knew we should've acted sooner.

Simpo Two

91,624 posts

289 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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limjamrace said:
I live on a Narrowboat and pay about £5 a week to the Marina owners off the meter outside the boat.Which i begrudge because he is a ****.
I think all marina owners are deranged to some degree, either alcoholics or post-nervous breakdown types - except the ones that are run as a professional business, and they cost double.

eldar

24,941 posts

220 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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What is to stop someone buying leccy at 13p a unit at the plug and feeding it back into the 'solar panel' and making 30p a unit profit? Is it tax free?

DodgeRam Van Man

126 posts

200 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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With the Feed-In-Tariff does this only apply to the excess over and above what you actually consume, or to the entire amount generated?

E.g if you generate 11Kwh per day do you get the full 40p per Kwh for 11Kwh and then buy what you use as normal at 10p per Kwh (or whatever your elec company charge), or do you get 'free' electricity from your PV array for whatever you are consuming and then paid for any excess you generate?

Also is it still true that it takes more energy to manufacture these PV cells than they actually generate back in their lifetime?

limjamrace

857 posts

176 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Simpo Two said:
I think all marina owners are deranged to some degree, either alcoholics or post-nervous breakdown types - except the ones that are run as a professional business, and they cost double.
Put in there professional "flannel fueled" business and move the goal posts when it suits to cover bad management would be more accurate for this unique example.

Simpo Two

91,624 posts

289 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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limjamrace said:
Put in there professional "flannel fueled" business and move the goal posts when it suits to cover bad management would be more accurate for this unique example.
But how hard can it be? Dig a hole, fill it with boats, collect the rent. Not rocket science is it?

Paul Drawmer

5,124 posts

291 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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DodgeRam Van Man said:
With the Feed-In-Tariff does this only apply to the excess over and above what you actually consume, or to the entire amount generated?

E.g if you generate 11Kwh per day do you get the full 40p per Kwh for 11Kwh and then buy what you use as normal at 10p per Kwh (or whatever your elec company charge), or do you get 'free' electricity from your PV array for whatever you are consuming and then paid for any excess you generate?

Also is it still true that it takes more energy to manufacture these PV cells than they actually generate back in their lifetime?
First of all - the finances are all about to change radically with a lowering of the tariff by about half in December for all new installations. So don't make any assumptions about financial performance until the new rates are finalised.

However the Feed In Tariff is a misnomer since the major payment is paid for generation, not what's fed back into the grid. There is a small (3p ish) additional payment for units fed back, and this is usually assumed to be 1/2 the number of units generated.

With respect to total energy payback. Solar panels are very good. Some estimates show about 4 years, but I'm surprised.
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/17219


limjamrace

857 posts

176 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Simpo Two said:
But how hard can it be? Dig a hole, fill it with boats, collect the rent. Not rocket science is it?
Not until a word called "greed " comes into it!

dickymint

28,559 posts

282 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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limjamrace said:
Simpo Two said:
But how hard can it be? Dig a hole, fill it with boats, collect the rent. Not rocket science is it?
Not until a word called "greed " comes into it!
Yeh. He's not even put any water in it!

limjamrace

857 posts

176 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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dickymint said:
Yeh. He's not even put any water in it!
smile If he could charge extra for that he would!

Thats British Waterways dept to hold you to ransom.