Building regs and windows - a cunning plan?
Building regs and windows - a cunning plan?
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joebongo

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1,516 posts

201 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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New kitchen will have two windows near neighbours side of house. It looks over a wall of theirs without windows and is the side of their house, a gravel path and a fence. So it doesn't actually matter in privacy terms whether it's obscured or not.

So, apply obscure film to windows for regs inspection, then remove after and replace with mirror tint film thus nobody can actually tell if it's obscured still or not.

Building regs aren't the cops and therefore no comeback or warrants so we would have clear ish windows without toilet style obscure glass.

Do I win the professor of cunning award or is this a bit daft?

GFraser

208 posts

152 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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I don't quite get what you're trying to achieve, but I think you're just asking if you can obscure some glazing for the building inspector's benefit and then remove afterwards? If so, then of course you can, but you'll obviously be in breach of the regs which you're trying to circumvent. It's unlikely an officer would return after the final inspection and if you don't think your neighbour would flag it up then it's up to you if you want to take the chance, you'd probably be alright.

silverthorn2151

6,375 posts

205 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Sorry, overlooking and privacy has bugger all to do with Building Regulations.

So on that basis, not a professor at all.

andy ted

1,324 posts

291 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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silverthorn2151 said:
Sorry, overlooking and privacy has bugger all to do with Building Regulations.

So on that basis, not a professor at all.
The regs state something like windows on the side of a property have to be obscured not sure of the exact details but it is a buildings reg issue.

O/P you need to consider what happens at sales time when the place gets surveyed as well I guess as may get picked up.

Slightly o/t but we are going through all of this at the moment with some renovations on our flat and I am wondering does anyone out there actually know the rules properly?! Council seem to say different things each time we speak to them if they don't know - how do they expect the average person supposed to know what is and isn't covered? I am sure people every day do things that should be checked but do nothing about it either as they assume it doesn't matter or they just don't realise, Must be lots of panic come sale time!

Busa mav

2,819 posts

180 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Go sit in the corner OP , silverthorn is correct. smile

What is the distance from window to boundary , as this the real point of interest for the building inspector.

Edited by Busa mav on Friday 21st February 16:12

Busa mav

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180 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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andy ted said:
The regs state something like windows on the side of a property have to be obscured not sure of the exact details si it is a buildings reg issue.

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Building regs state nothing of the sort , sorry smile

andy ted

1,324 posts

291 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Busa mav said:
andy ted said:
The regs state something like windows on the side of a property have to be obscured not sure of the exact details si it is a buildings reg issue.

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Building regs state nothing of the sort , sorry smile
Just double checked based on what we are going through now seems to be just first floor plus which is why it is causing us a problem - I am not expert though! might not be building regs but planning regs - its some sort of reg anyway! If you could tell me this doesn't count you would be doing me a massive favour!

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/common...

If new windows are in an upper-floor side elevation they must be obscure-glazed and either non opening or more than 1.7 metres above the floor level - I realise that doesn't apply to the OP unless his kitchen is first floor!


digger the goat

2,852 posts

171 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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rolleyes


hehe

Busa mav

2,819 posts

180 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Andy Edward, that is planning and the info is correct.

You will also need to check the conditions attached to the planning approval for the extension as it is highly likely that they have removed your pd rights for any new openings in the side wall.

Edited by Busa mav on Friday 21st February 16:49

andy ted

1,324 posts

291 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Busa mav said:
Andy Edward, that is planning and the info is correct.
OK so buildings control will not comment on this when they come to sign off work?

V8RX7

28,982 posts

289 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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IME Building inspectors just want to spend the minimum time possible on site and don't care about anything else as long as you are building safely (IE foundation depth, fire regs)

silverthorn2151

6,375 posts

205 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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And windows adjacent to boundaries relate to fire precautions under the building regulations being known as unprotected areas. That is, a section of wall that does not have the period of fore resistance required. There are limits on the area of unprotected areas that a building can have in relation to a boundary and the proximity to buildings.

It is related to restricting the spread of fire from one building to another. (/show off)

joewilliams

2,004 posts

227 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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What do your neighbours think?