Loft conversion on a 3 flat building - need others OK?
Loft conversion on a 3 flat building - need others OK?
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Ken Figenus

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6,011 posts

148 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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I own the top flat on a 3 storey building (Hackney) and a third of the freehold. As they have slackened the planning hurdles I was considering flipping the (rather wasteful) V roof to an Apex style and thus creating a lovely penthouse loft conversion. I've read up about party wall issues (its terraced) but would I also need some form of permission from the other lower flat owners? I know them, we get on, and I manage the freehold via a company for us all so it may even be straightforward if I do.

Just thinking and of course will take paid advice if I progress!

Cheers


anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Do you own the roofspace?

loafer123

16,763 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Depends upon the demise in your lease. Do you have sole access to the loft? Are you responsible for maintaining the roof outside the service charge.

That being said, a lot of people have made a lot of money adding an extra floor on blocks. Perhaps, even if you don't own the roof, you should get together with your co-owners, build an additional flat on the top, and make some money...

Du1point8

22,960 posts

223 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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offer to take ownership of the roof maintenance and in return you get the loft space to do with as you please.

Ken Figenus

Original Poster:

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148 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Interesting points - thanks a lot guys. I have sole access to the roof/loftspace but when we refurbished it externally 9 years ago we naturally split the cost. The loftspace is currently storage space for the top flat occupier only. We dont pay a service charge smile . I actually manage and issue the leases but will check the lease but dont remember any mention of loft conversions.

Cheers - could be a go-er!


Little Lofty

3,914 posts

182 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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To convert the forth floor of a house is a pita, different regs apply to a loft conversion 7.5 m above ground level, I know this as I converted mine. Strictly speaking it should have an external escape or a protected escape route with sprinklers, I'm not sure how this will effect flats as you may already have one of these escape methods in place, worth checking though.

Du1point8

22,960 posts

223 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Little Lofty said:
To convert the forth floor of a house is a pita, different regs apply to a loft conversion 7.5 m above ground level, I know this as I converted mine. Strictly speaking it should have an external escape or a protected escape route with sprinklers, I'm not sure how this will effect flats as you may already have one of these escape methods in place, worth checking though.
I assume when he says 3 storey, its ground, 1st, 2nd... don't need any external escapes for that, or at least none of the loft conversions I have seen in london at that height or one story higher has them.

Little Lofty

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182 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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That would still take the loft above 7.5m, unless the building has very low ceilings. I live in a modern 3 story townhouse and my loft floor is around 8m above ground. The LABC allowed me to install extra smokes and fire doors to compensate for the lack of external escape/sprinklers.

Ken Figenus

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148 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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[MOVED: It really is a business - not my home, doesnt have a garden and I aint doing a DIY loft conversion! Whatevs!]

Thanks for the input Lofty - are you in the trade mate? I don't actually have an issue with an external fire escape - tenants safety is more important than a few grand for this.

Ken Figenus

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148 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Du point its actually a basement, ground, 1st and 2nd floor but they are all duplex giving 3 units total. HMO regs will kick in too but that's fine as I have the landlord accreditation.

I called Hackney planning for some topline advice a few weeks ago but they were totally unhelpful so thanks for the advice guys.