Repairing render
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RockyBalboa

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768 posts

187 months

Thursday 9th June 2016
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Are there any new methods to repair existing render?

Some of the render on the house is cracked and rather than traditional sand/cement which always cracks, I wondered if I can hack off the cracked bits (plus surrounding areas) and use something modern which is more flexible?


As well as the render repair, what can I use to repair/fill tired decorative elements such as this?


RockyBalboa

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768 posts

187 months

Thursday 9th June 2016
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Just read about monocouche render but is it possible to patch areas amongst regular render with this?

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

196 months

Thursday 9th June 2016
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Should find something suitable here, http://www.toupret.co.uk/business-customers/produc...
Some of them sand nicely, others cannot be easily corrected once set.

RockyBalboa

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187 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Problem is, there are so many to choose from such as Toupret Touprelit F Masonry Repair Filler Power, Murex and Toupret Fibarex.

Any ideas??

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

196 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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You can have a look at the data sheets, see which is most suitable for you.

I've found:-

The Murex can be applied as deep as you like in one hit, is white & paintable by the next day, sets very hard, you'll need emery paper to sand it and it's hard work - so you need to get the shape right before it sets. It goes off very quickly in hot weather. Consistency is a bit like dough but depends exactly how much water you add so you can make it stiffer/sloppier within sensible limits.

The 'F is more like a grey cement mortar, might need 2 or more hits for deep holes, sets a bit softer and sands nicely, it seemed to have a longer working time to me but it's says it's the same as the Murex in the sheets.

RockyBalboa

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768 posts

187 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Is the stuff with the fibres not suitable for this sort of thing?

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

196 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Probably, but I've never used it, it seems to be reinforced Murex so will be equally 'unsandable', the Murex doesn't crack easily anyway. Obviously if the edges of the filled hole or the substrate move you will get hairline cracks at the join regardless of what filler you use. There is no magic answer.

yellowtang

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164 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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From that photo I'm assuming it's an old house?

RockyBalboa

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768 posts

187 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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I rang the Toupret UK office who gave me the mobile number of their 'technical specialist' or something. He didn't seem particularly interested but managed to get some answers!

He suggested Tourprelith F. He said that Murex can be used but it has crushed marble so it is a bit hard to sand.

Still a bit confused!

Yeah it's not a modern house.

yellowtang

1,790 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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If your house is Edwardian or earlier, it will almost certainly have been built with lime mortar rather than cement. Now, aside from breathability issues with cement, lime mortar is also flexible, so lime built walls can move and the lime pointing/render won't crack and fail. Cement on the other hand is totally rigid, so if a cement render is applied to a lime built wall, it will crack due to the constant flexing of the wall.

Hack the cement render off and redo it in lime.

  • if your house is 1930's or later, disregard all of the above because it will likely be cement built!

RockyBalboa

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768 posts

187 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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The house itself is old, however, the render appear to have been applied much later and is standard sand/cement. As far as I know, it was given a couple of licks of paint over the past 30 years and has generally faired well, however, there are some cracks (which do not seem too wide) which I'd like to sort before I repaint it.

Just a question of whether I use Tourprelith F or Murex.