Self levelling compound - sanding down?
Self levelling compound - sanding down?
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Mojooo

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13,291 posts

209 months

Thursday 9th June 2016
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I laid some Sika self levellign compund a few weeks ago.

Unfortunatley where the front door is, it is a bit too high so with the carpet it is rubbing too much and does not allow for a mat.

I just need to reduce the height by about 5mm (I did put it on quite think) - to create a slope udner the door.

Can this stuff be manually sanded down or is there another way? I want to avoid breaking it out.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

174 months

Thursday 9th June 2016
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I guess you can only try but I'm thinking due to it having some sort of rubber / latex compound in it then it won't take well to sanding.

EViS

408 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Yes, it sands quite well, but use a low grit on a power sander or a flap blade on a grinder otherwise you'll be there forever.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

292 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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I have used one of these and it works very well / fast.

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accesso...

Obviously there is a lot of dust and keep it moving !

ACCYSTAN

1,376 posts

150 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Hi,
Similar to the op

Laid some self levelling compound but it seems to have been a dud batch; lots of high spots and drops throughout.
I have laid self levelling compound many times without issue, this is the first time the finish has been poor.
I know it was made with the correct ratio of water so no idea why it’s gone wrong this time as it gives the appearance in places it’s been brushed.

My question is

Is sanding down with a angle grinder using a Diamond Concrete Grinding Disc still the best option?
Need to remove about 1-2mm in places.

pquinn

7,167 posts

75 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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A rubbing block might work too.

If it's that bad and widespread might just be easier to take it up and redo.

Vanden Saab

17,853 posts

103 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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ACCYSTAN said:
Hi,
Similar to the op

Laid some self levelling compound but it seems to have been a dud batch; lots of high spots and drops throughout.
I have laid self levelling compound many times without issue, this is the first time the finish has been poor.
I know it was made with the correct ratio of water so no idea why it’s gone wrong this time as it gives the appearance in places it’s been brushed.

My question is

Is sanding down with a angle grinder using a Diamond Concrete Grinding Disc still the best option?
Need to remove about 1-2mm in places.
Sounds like it has got damp at some point and not mixed smoothly. You can normally scrape the surface down with a bladed scraper, it is easier and quicker than trying to use power tools. Once it is flat just seal the areas that you have removed material from.

ACCYSTAN

1,376 posts

150 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Thank you for the replies

It’s a decent size room. A bladder scrapper would take a lot of effort but thanks for suggestion.

I might as well buy the bullet and get the diamond grinding disc, hopefully it will last a good while and I can use it on a future project.

I did try an orbital sander with 40 rated paper but ii went through 5 sheets fast before I gave up, just not strong enough although it did work.
Would take 400 odd sheets at that rate!

wolfracesonic

9,174 posts

156 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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If you have a grinder of some sort, try a diamond cup wheel.

Semmelweiss

1,835 posts

225 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I'm going to be a contrarian here...

(Self-) Levelling compound is designed to have a high compression strength, but very little fracture strength. You'll see what I mean if you have a loose piece, where you can snap it with your hands.

If you use a high powered tool to sand it down, you will most likely cause mini-fractures, and compromise the compression strength / adhesion to the substrate.

I would (and have recently done, last Friday), sand it manually, with a rubbing block (20 grit) like this https://www.screwfix.com/p/marshalltown-20-grit-ru...

Use a straight edge to check your levels, and this should take 20 minutes max. This will be quicker and easier on the floor than the time it takes to setup, and clean up using an electric tool.

Always wear a mask and eye protection when exposing yourself to sanded and/or raw cement dust.

KTMsm

28,982 posts

292 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Semmelweiss said:
I'm going to be a contrarian here...

(Self-) Levelling compound is designed to have a high compression strength, but very little fracture strength. You'll see what I mean if you have a loose piece, where you can snap it with your hands.

If you use a high powered tool to sand it down, you will most likely cause mini-fractures, and compromise the compression strength / adhesion to the substrate.

I would (and have recently done, last Friday), sand it manually, with a rubbing block (20 grit) like this https://www.screwfix.com/p/marshalltown-20-grit-ru...

Use a straight edge to check your levels, and this should take 20 minutes max. This will be quicker and easier on the floor than the time it takes to setup, and clean up using an electric tool.

Always wear a mask and eye protection when exposing yourself to sanded and/or raw cement dust.
I tried with a belt sander and it wore out the belts so fast it wasn't worth it - they sell diamond discs for a reason

As you're putting zero pressure on it, just removing the surface I can't see how it can affect anything and my hall floor has been done and used as a wearing surface for 3+ years as I haven't got around to covering it yet !

As it can open up the surface I brushed a bit of watered down SBR on to seal it

Semmelweiss

1,835 posts

225 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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KTMsm said:
I tried with a belt sander and it wore out the belts so fast it wasn't worth it - they sell diamond discs for a reason

As you're putting zero pressure on it, just removing the surface I can't see how it can affect anything and my hall floor has been done and used as a wearing surface for 3+ years as I haven't got around to covering it yet !

As it can open up the surface I brushed a bit of watered down SBR on to seal it
Different folks, different strokes... This is what makes the world so interesting.

moustachebandit

1,336 posts

172 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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KTMsm

28,982 posts

292 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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moustachebandit said:
Never come across one of those

Have you used one ?

Presumably it's like a harder pumice stone and just gradually wears down

hellorent

597 posts

92 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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V8RX7 said:
I have used one of these and it works very well / fast.

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accesso...

Obviously there is a lot of dust and keep it moving !
Would you wet the concrete when using 1 of these.

KTMsm

28,982 posts

292 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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hellorent said:
Would you wet the concrete when using 1 of these.
As my grinder is 240v I didn't fancy adding water !

It is dusty

I use water when cutting with my petrol grinder but it makes a mess

Drumroll

4,494 posts

149 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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KTMsm said:
Never come across one of those

Have you used one ?

Presumably it's like a harder pumice stone and just gradually wears down


Yes they are similar to a pumice stone, I have used them in the past to level/remove soft layers of concrete. Unfortunately because of what I was doing, I had to use them dry. So dust masks and goggles (at least) are a must.

Some of the guys who use them for defect repairs treat them a bit like wet and dry sandpaper, cuts down the dust, and "rinsing" the block in water helps prevent clogging.

Consigliere

409 posts

70 months

Friday 7th August
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How did you folks get on with the grinding/sanding?

I find myself in the same predicament and will be undertaking this task in the very near future