Cleaning patio
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PositronicRay

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28,783 posts

209 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Hi after some advice

I jet wash my patio each spring, a very poor run off so a bit of a pain. However it now has black spots on it, I've tried to shift them, detergent and scrubbing, to no avail.

I'm not sure what causes the spots, I suspect rain. They don't appear under a covered lobby, and seem worse where the patio only gets a little sunlight.

Should I try some patio cleaner and a jet wash before the winter, in the hope this makes the job easier come spring?

It's just bog std Cotswold slabs.

Actual

1,627 posts

132 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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A quick blast with a pressure washer will clean away the dirt and grime from a patio but get the pressure washer nozzle within 5mm of the black spots and wipe them out down to the slab. Takes time but that is what a pressure washer does.

FiF

48,337 posts

277 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Patio cleaner containing benzalkonium chloride also known as alkyldimethylbenzylammonium chloride.

Problem is using a pressure washer in an area with dodgy drainage is that you're adding to the problem with the samp, you're probably getting lichen or mould growth and the product applied on a dry day by sprayer or watering can will kill the growth and keep it free for a year.

Don't let it get on flowers, it can alter the colours, and get careful with pets, especially cats. Lots of products in all diy and garden places. Green gone is one.

dazwalsh

6,110 posts

167 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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FiF said:
alkyldimethylbenzylammonium chloride.
Who the feck names these chemicals??

fttm

4,457 posts

161 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Diluted bleach and a stiff brush

rufmeister

1,486 posts

148 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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The lichen will remove with household bleach, and a stiff brush. or sodium hypochlorite mixed with water at a low ratio, left to dwell, then simply rinse off.

Hypo is hazardous to pants and animals, no to mention yourself!

PositronicRay

Original Poster:

28,783 posts

209 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Thanks chaps, I'll break the bleach out. thumbup

rufmeister

1,486 posts

148 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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The longer you leave it to dwell, the less scrubbing you do.

Look for the strongest you can get.

Pressure washing is one of the services my company offers, so if you need further help, ask away.

Matt Harper

6,976 posts

227 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Muriatic acid is what you need - available from pool care businesses - just be careful when sloshing it about - it's somewhat corrosive.

Gareth79

8,822 posts

272 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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FiF said:
Patio cleaner containing benzalkonium chloride also known as alkyldimethylbenzylammonium chloride.

Problem is using a pressure washer in an area with dodgy drainage is that you're adding to the problem with the samp, you're probably getting lichen or mould growth and the product applied on a dry day by sprayer or watering can will kill the growth and keep it free for a year.

Don't let it get on flowers, it can alter the colours, and get careful with pets, especially cats. Lots of products in all diy and garden places. Green gone is one.
Agree, this stuff does the job - my path gets a lot of lichen/black slime and a treatment of BAC kills it within a few weeks (it dies off and disappears). I have found it cheap on ebay, works out far cheaper than garden centre stuff for the volume, but probably worth splitting with friends/neighbours:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Benzalkonium-Chloride-BA...



Some Gump

13,018 posts

212 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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dazwalsh said:
Who the feck names these chemicals??
iupac.

Sticks.

9,656 posts

277 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Patio Magic, from garden centre, Amazon etc, works very well and lasts a good few months.

BlueHave

4,717 posts

134 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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You need Sodium Hypochlorite, it's about £15 for 25L from the local builders merchants.

Its basically very strong bleach.

PositronicRay

Original Poster:

28,783 posts

209 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Well as an experiment.

I bleached a slab, then jet washed it, took ages. It's a little better, still black blobs of lichen albeit smaller and lighter. I jet washed the slab next to it, no bleach, the result looks the same.

I found an unopened bottle of patio magic in the shed (must have had these thoughts before, maybe yrs ago) I've followed the instructions and "watered" a couple of slabs, no difference yet but it's only been 24 hrs.


Dr Interceptor

8,182 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Sodium Hypochlorite as above... Minimum 10/11%, ideally 14/15% strength.

If your builders merchants doesn't stock it, try your local swimming pool company/outlet wink

We trade sell it out to every patio/driveway cleaning company in the area.

FiF

48,337 posts

277 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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This is the advice from the Royal Horticultural Society https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=418


Far Cough

2,477 posts

194 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Done mine. 4 x bottles of bleach. Splosh it all over an already damp wet patio so it spreads easy. Stiff brush to assist spreading. Do it last thing at night so it doesnt dry instantly in the sun. Leave to dwell all night - rinse and jobs a goodun

PositronicRay

Original Poster:

28,783 posts

209 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Okay.

Time for chemical warfare banditshoot

Dr Interceptor

8,182 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Word of warning... Assume that any clothes you wear when using Hypo will be thoroughly destroyed.

GT03ROB

14,012 posts

247 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Dr Interceptor said:
Sodium Hypochlorite as above... Minimum 10/11%, ideally 14/15% strength.

If your builders merchants doesn't stock it, try your local swimming pool company/outlet wink

We trade sell it out to every patio/driveway cleaning company in the area.
Absolutely.... I've got beautifully clean areas of patio around the pool where I normally spill it!