Window re-enforcement at home!
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There have been a recent spate of burglaries in my local area, including aggravated burglaries where they have brazenly smashed their way in early evening and approached the occupants. I stay away a couple of nights a week and I am worried about my other half at home on her own.
There are some high value cars on the estate, one of which parks adjacent to my house - anyone walking past would think it was mine. Which I think increases my chance of someone coming in to get the keys.
We have 6ft 6" panes of glass in the patio doors which are normally smashed to gain entry at the rear. I have seen some adverts for glass re-enforcement film or plastic covers for them.
Does anybody have any suggestions as to where to buy some from and how easy is it to fit?
I know it is not going to keep them out, but it will give my other half time to run out of the front door and raise alarm.
Thanks
There are some high value cars on the estate, one of which parks adjacent to my house - anyone walking past would think it was mine. Which I think increases my chance of someone coming in to get the keys.
We have 6ft 6" panes of glass in the patio doors which are normally smashed to gain entry at the rear. I have seen some adverts for glass re-enforcement film or plastic covers for them.
Does anybody have any suggestions as to where to buy some from and how easy is it to fit?
I know it is not going to keep them out, but it will give my other half time to run out of the front door and raise alarm.
Thanks
supercommuter said:
I know it is not going to keep them out, but it will give my other half time to run out of the front door and raise alarm.
Release.......THE WIFE!
http://www.filmcote.co.uk/safety-and-security-film...
Edited by Pixel Pusher on Monday 6th February 11:47
Slightly off topic but do you and your wife want a dog? One of my clients got a giant Rottweiler (I suspect its part donkey and part main battle tank too), it is nice with the family, lovable even, but I popped round once and they had left him out by himself. I opened the gate and came reasonably close to being eaten. On another occasion it took a dislike to me mid way between the car and the office, as is squared up to me and growled I considered trying to run and climb onto the roof of the car.... fortunately I was rescued.
I wouldn't burgle that house for love nor money!
I wouldn't burgle that house for love nor money!
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Slightly off topic but do you and your wife want a dog? One of my clients got a giant Rottweiler (I suspect its part donkey and part main battle tank too), it is nice with the family, lovable even, but I popped round once and they had left him out by himself. I opened the gate and came reasonably close to being eaten. On another occasion it took a dislike to me mid way between the car and the office, as is squared up to me and growled I considered trying to run and climb onto the roof of the car.... fortunately I was rescued.
I wouldn't burgle that house for love nor money!
I had a similar experience once. Was doing a window for a guy who dealt in high end cars from his (massive) house. Pressed the buzzer on the gate and he let me in. As I'm making my way through the maze of Range Rovers the biggest fI wouldn't burgle that house for love nor money!
king Bull Mastiff I've ever seen stepped out from behind one of the cars and started staring me down. Remarked to the customer that criminals must be very nourishing as that dog was a monster. "Oh don't worry about him, if I'm here he knows its ok. If you'd hopped over the wall when I was out he'd shred you though."
LordJammy said:
I had a similar experience once. Was doing a window for a guy who dealt in high end cars from his (massive) house. Pressed the buzzer on the gate and he let me in. As I'm making my way through the maze of Range Rovers the biggest fking Bull Mastiff I've ever seen stepped out from behind one of the cars and started staring me down.
Remarked to the customer that criminals must be very nourishing as that dog was a monster. "Oh don't worry about him, if I'm here he knows its ok. If you'd hopped over the wall when I was out he'd shred you though."
It's just as likely the dog wouldn't do anything at all. My dogs both go bat sh*t crazy at anyone who approaches the house and sound quite vicious to the point delivery drivers often knock the door and stand and the end of the drive waiting for me to open the door. Reality is if the dogs got at him they would want some fuss and probably lick him. king Bull Mastiff I've ever seen stepped out from behind one of the cars and started staring me down. Remarked to the customer that criminals must be very nourishing as that dog was a monster. "Oh don't worry about him, if I'm here he knows its ok. If you'd hopped over the wall when I was out he'd shred you though."
You can get the glass changed for 6.4mm laminated panes.
https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/door-securit...
https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/door-securit...
MockingJay said:
It's just as likely the dog wouldn't do anything at all. My dogs both go bat sh*t crazy at anyone who approaches the house and sound quite vicious to the point delivery drivers often knock the door and stand and the end of the drive waiting for me to open the door. Reality is if the dogs got at him they would want some fuss and probably lick him.
You are probably right but I'd not be in any hurry to find out. I got bitten by a Labrador once and that hurt enough, I wouldn't like to try one from a dog the size of a tractor. 
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Slightly off topic but do you and your wife want a dog? One of my clients got a giant Rottweiler (I suspect its part donkey and part main battle tank too), it is nice with the family, lovable even, but I popped round once and they had left him out by himself. I opened the gate and came reasonably close to being eaten. On another occasion it took a dislike to me mid way between the car and the office, as is squared up to me and growled I considered trying to run and climb onto the roof of the car.... fortunately I was rescued.
I wouldn't burgle that house for love nor money!
Would love a dog but I work 6am - 8pm in the week. She works 7am - 5-30pm in the week....and i have a mental cat.I wouldn't burgle that house for love nor money!
It would be unfair to leave what would inevitable be, a dog the size of a horse in a 3 bed semi all day.
Laminated glass is a waste of time. A few years ago my house was broken into. They smashed the window and reached in and opened the window and climbed through. Ended up losing some cash I had stored in the house. I replaced the broken window with laminated glass, just the broken one. I couldn't afford to do the whole house. The cheeky bds came back a week later and robbed me again, through the same window. It would have taken them a few seconds longer but they used the same method. Stupid idiots, if they got all my cash a week ago it stands to reason that it won't be there again because it was already in their pockets. What they did this time was trash everything in the house.
Now i have a Rottweiler. I don't know how effective that will be as dogs can be bribed with unfrozen sausages but maybe it'll deter them.
ds came back a week later and robbed me again, through the same window. It would have taken them a few seconds longer but they used the same method. Stupid idiots, if they got all my cash a week ago it stands to reason that it won't be there again because it was already in their pockets. What they did this time was trash everything in the house. Now i have a Rottweiler. I don't know how effective that will be as dogs can be bribed with unfrozen sausages but maybe it'll deter them.
This was on Dragons Den last night and would slow down or put off some burglars:
http://www.patlock.co.uk
http://www.patlock.co.uk
Ubar said:
supercommuter said:
We have 6ft 6" panes of glass in the patio doors which are normally smashed to gain entry at the rear.
Do you regularly have your back doors smashed in?3 of my neighbours have had their back doors smashed in aggressively by some rather large men.
If it was just for plain security I found inset roller shutters worked pretty well. But not common in the UK and not usually much use if you are in the house as you probably wouldn't have them shut. Probably similar with any grill system as you just won't bother shutting it after a while unless you're paranoid.
Proper security glass works for most things but costs. And would likely need new frames to suit.
Polycarbonate sheet on the outside of the glazed units works ok and would be pretty solid if backed up by a double glazed unit as those are reasonably hard to break if you can't make a point contact to the glass. Downside is limits to how thick a sheet you can fit with the existing beads and glazing plus the polycarbonate isn't wildly resistant to scratches and UV so would look tired after a while. Use with a film on the glass for extra robustness. Can be overcome but adds delay and effort and noise which sounds like what is wanted here rather than ultimate security.
The real solution would be to stop people trying in the first place but that's a whole different problem.
Proper security glass works for most things but costs. And would likely need new frames to suit.
Polycarbonate sheet on the outside of the glazed units works ok and would be pretty solid if backed up by a double glazed unit as those are reasonably hard to break if you can't make a point contact to the glass. Downside is limits to how thick a sheet you can fit with the existing beads and glazing plus the polycarbonate isn't wildly resistant to scratches and UV so would look tired after a while. Use with a film on the glass for extra robustness. Can be overcome but adds delay and effort and noise which sounds like what is wanted here rather than ultimate security.
The real solution would be to stop people trying in the first place but that's a whole different problem.
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