Replacing shower pump
Discussion
Morning All,
Our ensuite shower has lost pressure and the once noisy pump is now fairly quiet so i'm working on the assumption that it's had it.
I've had a quote to replace it which seems slightly higher than I was expected (£500) but is for a supposedly high end pump (monsoon?).
Anyway couple of questions if you'll indulge me:
1) The hot water tank is quite small and as we're a growing family it's likely we'll look to change this in the next couple of years to cover 5 showers etc p/day, so am I better off getting a 'cheap' pump now and changing to a pressurised hot water tank when the time comes? (the other shower in the house is an Aqualisa power shower).
2) Any recommendations on quiet(ier) pumps?
3) Assuming that it looks to my (untrained) eyes that I can turn off the hot/cold feeds to the pump (and drain down the pump) myself, how easy are these to replace? (the power is supplied by a standard 3pin plug).
Cheers,
Phill
Our ensuite shower has lost pressure and the once noisy pump is now fairly quiet so i'm working on the assumption that it's had it.
I've had a quote to replace it which seems slightly higher than I was expected (£500) but is for a supposedly high end pump (monsoon?).
Anyway couple of questions if you'll indulge me:
1) The hot water tank is quite small and as we're a growing family it's likely we'll look to change this in the next couple of years to cover 5 showers etc p/day, so am I better off getting a 'cheap' pump now and changing to a pressurised hot water tank when the time comes? (the other shower in the house is an Aqualisa power shower).
2) Any recommendations on quiet(ier) pumps?
3) Assuming that it looks to my (untrained) eyes that I can turn off the hot/cold feeds to the pump (and drain down the pump) myself, how easy are these to replace? (the power is supplied by a standard 3pin plug).
Cheers,
Phill
Is that price fitted? Seems a good deal. The pumps alone are ~£320 for a twin impeller. A quick look around, I couldn't see anything comparable below £290. And when you upgrade the tank just re-plumb it in.
I've had a Monsoon fitted for over 10 years. Aside from an electronics issue with the flow sensors, it's been faultless.
I've had a Monsoon fitted for over 10 years. Aside from an electronics issue with the flow sensors, it's been faultless.
Whoozit said:
Is that price fitted? Seems a good deal. The pumps alone are ~£320 for a twin impeller. A quick look around, I couldn't see anything comparable below £290. And when you upgrade the tank just re-plumb it in.
I've had a Monsoon fitted for over 10 years. Aside from an electronics issue with the flow sensors, it's been faultless.
Yes, all fitted. Ok, not as bad as I thought then! I've had a Monsoon fitted for over 10 years. Aside from an electronics issue with the flow sensors, it's been faultless.
I was thinking £250 for the pump and half day to fit (£100) - however this is the first time I've had to have a pump changed
Magic919 said:
I'd replace it with a Stuart Turner unless going unvented now.
The fittings are push fit, which is easy. The copper pipes might not be exactly where you'll need them. I fitted an RCD to my pump supply for safety.
Yep - get a Stuart Turner pump off eBay. Even an old second hand unit will far outlast any modern tat.The fittings are push fit, which is easy. The copper pipes might not be exactly where you'll need them. I fitted an RCD to my pump supply for safety.
All you do is drain the system (or isolate if possible), unscrew the 4 hoses, fit the new one and wire in - easy peasy.
I fitted a Salamander which yes I know isnt a premium pump, but id does the job. Im going unvented soon though so no point spending loads of money. With a tank that size, yes you can empty it relatively easily esp if you other half is like mine and isnt exactly quick in the shower. When we go unvented Ill be fitting a tank half as big again,
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Magic919 said:
I'd replace it with a Stuart Turner unless going unvented now.
The fittings are push fit, which is easy. The copper pipes might not be exactly where you'll need them. I fitted an RCD to my pump supply for safety.
Yep - get a Stuart Turner pump off eBay. Even an old second hand unit will far outlast any modern tat.The fittings are push fit, which is easy. The copper pipes might not be exactly where you'll need them. I fitted an RCD to my pump supply for safety.
All you do is drain the system (or isolate if possible), unscrew the 4 hoses, fit the new one and wire in - easy peasy.
Stuart Turner do refurbished and old stock cheap on their web site. The one I bought was brand new. http://www.stuart-turner.co.uk/where-to-buy/buy-Re...
That's exactly the same as the one I used to replace the crap Plumb Center one that failed in our place. Dead easy to fit so I did it myself.
The old pump had 15mm connections that needed reducers from the 22mm pipework. The Monsoon replacement had 22mm connectors with push fit ends so all I had to do was remove the 15mm reducers and lengthen a couple of the 22mm bits.
Also sat it on half a paving slab on top of a rubber mat to get rid of the annoying noise we had when the old pump was on - it had been mounted directly on the airing cupboard floor so was noisy as hell when running.
The old pump had 15mm connections that needed reducers from the 22mm pipework. The Monsoon replacement had 22mm connectors with push fit ends so all I had to do was remove the 15mm reducers and lengthen a couple of the 22mm bits.
Also sat it on half a paving slab on top of a rubber mat to get rid of the annoying noise we had when the old pump was on - it had been mounted directly on the airing cupboard floor so was noisy as hell when running.
That label says low voltage so presumably there is a transformer involved somewhere?
You might check that it is the pump that has failed and not the transformer.
A quick google shows things like this http://www.anchorpumps.com/pump-type/shower/grundf... for only £90
or http://www.anchorpumps.com/pump-type/shower/grundf... which is stated as a direct replacement
The descriptions on those give cable length to and from the transformer which implies that the transformer is included - which suggests you could do it yourself in 30 mins and save £400.
The only thing to be careful of is that you insert push fit fittings far enough. measure and mark the pipes to be sure that you have them correctly inserted.
You might check that it is the pump that has failed and not the transformer.
A quick google shows things like this http://www.anchorpumps.com/pump-type/shower/grundf... for only £90
or http://www.anchorpumps.com/pump-type/shower/grundf... which is stated as a direct replacement
The descriptions on those give cable length to and from the transformer which implies that the transformer is included - which suggests you could do it yourself in 30 mins and save £400.
The only thing to be careful of is that you insert push fit fittings far enough. measure and mark the pipes to be sure that you have them correctly inserted.
Edited by TooLateForAName on Friday 12th May 10:41
Check on eBay - something like this would be fine
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-46502/1625...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-44419-Show...
The good thing with Stuart Turner pumps is that all the parts are available, like seals, bearings etc.
Not that they need replacing for years...they're very high quality.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-46502/1625...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stuart-Turner-44419-Show...
The good thing with Stuart Turner pumps is that all the parts are available, like seals, bearings etc.
Not that they need replacing for years...they're very high quality.
Edited by Dr Doofenshmirtz on Friday 12th May 11:02
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