To all the painters ... Kitchen cupboard & Tile painting...
To all the painters ... Kitchen cupboard & Tile painting...
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wackojacko1234

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136 posts

123 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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We have decided to renovate our kitchen keeping costs down.... The existing cupboards are laminate and splashback is tiled panelling it would seem... Intention is to paint all with a few coats of zinseer primer before top coating... Anyone done this before or what paint would be recommended for top coats... Dare I say it I have a few tins of dulux satin wood left over from changing doors... Would this be suitable on tiles...?

Also thinking of renovating existing worktops with a marble effect wrap...

Any recommendations / tips etc welcome !!!

Thanks.

mattman

3,192 posts

246 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Sorry but that is going to look awful.

No problem with painting the doors using the right paint, but wrapping a worktop will look crap and last about 5 mins. If cost is the issue, get some standard laminate from B&Q and fit yourself. Use joint bars if needed for any corners so you don’t need to pay a chippy and a jigsaw to cut out the sink hole - all very diy-able.

For the tiles, find some cheap ones and tile over the top of the existing ones - again can be done very cheap and diy. Painted tiles with the grout lines painted over look terrible

BertyFish

674 posts

188 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Not sure how you wrap a worktop.

We have just tarted up our kitchen.

It will all be removed in a year or so and the plan is just to make it cleaner and a nicer place to be.

Before...carpet tiles, flower wall tiles, textured grey cupboards and a thin marked worktop.

I wrapped the cupboards, worktop £35 x3 from b&q, (howdens salamander strips as above comment) painted the tiles/adding a top strip, new floorings. Did it all myself for around £400ish. It's fine for now.

Before



After


singlecoil

35,786 posts

270 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Whatever you paint the kitchen with, you'll need to get the condensed grease off first and it can be very sticky stuff, sugar soap is a good bet for this.

If you decide to change the worktop you'll have to watch out for a lazy tiler having run the first row of tiles straight onto the worktop, it can be very difficult to remove a worktop if that's the case without cracking or actually breaking some of the tiles. Try lowering the units (by adjusting the legs) first, or at least get a blade in there and make sure the tiles aren't sticking to the worktop.

EarlofDrift

4,716 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Avoid using specific cupboard paint as it'll be very thick with a built in primer therefore a nightmare to paint with and the finish will usually be rubbish. Lots of brush marks and patchy.

If your painting melamine or laminate then degrease and then get yourself some Zinsser B-I-N. primer, that'll open up whole range of colour options and finishes.

Wrapping the worktop will look terrible and the wrap won't be that durable. It'll have zero heat resistance, one hot mug and you'll need to re-wrap or cover it up. Might be better looking at builders merchants or the DIY sheds as they often have clearance ranges or worktops they are looking rid of.



Edited by EarlofDrift on Sunday 12th January 06:15

wackojacko1234

Original Poster:

136 posts

123 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Thanks for replies / comments. Yea I'll be priming cupboards & tiles with zinseer... Great stuff. Appreciate a lot of prep work is required to remove grease etc but all achievable... Early 2020 project

For the wrap was thinking something like this.... Seems to get positive reviews
https://www.diy.com/departments/d-c-fix-pino-aurel...


milu

2,493 posts

290 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Ignore the anti wrappers.
I've used it on work tops without issue. Obviously you have to be patient when applying. You can't put hot pans etc on it but you probably wouldn't anyway. Cups etc are fine

Use chopping boards going forward

wackojacko1234

Original Poster:

136 posts

123 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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milu said:
Ignore the anti wrappers.
I've used it on work tops without issue. Obviously you have to be patient when applying. You can't put hot pans etc on it but you probably wouldn't anyway. Cups etc are fine

Use chopping boards going forward
What product did you use and did you sand surface before applying...?

milu

2,493 posts

290 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Dc fix like you buy from wilko
Good clean beforehand is all I did. You can use a lubricant spray,washing up liquid and water I believe. Have a little play to make sure it dries out properly. I didn't use any but applying without is difficult
I used a granite look with a slight texture. Worked a treat.

Incidentally I've used the same vinyl on cars too. Never moved.

Of course all the powerfully built directors will be mortified!!

Crumpet

5,044 posts

204 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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I did a quick renovation on our kitchen cupboards in the summer. I say quick, but if you prep and paint the doors properly you can easily spend four or five days doing 20 doors.

Clean down twice with sugar soap
Lightly scuff with sponge sanding pads
Two coats of Zinsser Bullseye 123 with a roller
Three coats of top coat with a roller

The top coat is the weakest link and for a few months picked up a few chips and scuffs until it properly hardened. It’s now rock solid and with the chips touched up looks great.

Don’t underestimate the amount of work involved, for a medium number of units you could easily take a week to do them. It also helps if you have space to spread all the doors out. I’d paint a side and then sit the doors on upturned bowls waiting for them to dry!

It’s still a crap Ikea kitchen but it’s bought us another four or five years with it looking perfectly acceptable. I actually prefer the finish on the doors to when it was brand new.


technodup

7,651 posts

154 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Crumpet said:
I did a quick renovation on our kitchen cupboards in the summer. I say quick, but if you prep and paint the doors properly you can easily spend four or five days doing 20 doors.
I've literally just done it. Took a week, five coats on the fronts, just two on the backs because it was talking too long otherwise. Paint wasn't drying overnight, took more like 24hrs. I had the paint lying around but in future I think I'd buy new doors tbh. Certainly quicker.

Crumpet

5,044 posts

204 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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technodup said:
've literally just done it. Took a week, five coats on the fronts, just two on the backs because it was talking too long otherwise. Paint wasn't drying overnight, took more like 24hrs. I had the paint lying around but in future I think I'd buy new doors tbh. Certainly quicker.
Yeah, when I was researching it there were people recommending using oil based paint! You’d have no doors for months with that route!

Each coat was taking me about three hours to apply to all the doors and then six to dry, so you can do two a day.

Edit: That’s a lie - I was doing the fronts in the morning and backs in the evening. For five coats each. Five days.

Probably not the best way to spend five days off work when you can pay a decorator £100 a day to do it for you and in between coats on the doors would probably paint a couple of rooms for you as well!

Edited by Crumpet on Sunday 12th January 23:13

DeanDelfin

1 posts

43 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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I'm not very confident that your kitchen will look good after you do what you have in mind with it. The best thing to do is to call professional painters and renovation people and have them do the repairs. You can also try paint by number your kitchen, this is done in several steps and one at a time. Many amateur painters paint furniture or something else using this method, which is to cover part of the furniture, paint the rest, and then paint the covered part. It's a very fiddly job, but if you choose to do it yourself, I can't offer you any other options. If you don't want to go through the hassle, however, it's better to go to the professionals.

Edited by DeanDelfin on Friday 16th September 10:54