HS2 - Acceptable Distance Away From Line ???
HS2 - Acceptable Distance Away From Line ???
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vdn

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9,225 posts

225 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Trains don’t bother me - current home is not far from a track; the noise isn’t intrusive at all.

New, potential, home is bang on 500 metres from the proposed HS2 line... I can’t see it being intrusive - but it may well affect the future value of the property?

What would you deem an acceptable distance from the proposed HS2 line? - at what point would you deem it affecting a property value?

Not sure whether to ask for more off the offered price; based on this distance from HS2 being a potential factor down the line (excuse the pun).

Again; personally; it won’t bother me - but I want to factor in value fluctuations based on other people’s views.


micky metro

306 posts

208 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Prevailing wind directions would certainly be a factor regarding noise levels.

vdn

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9,225 posts

225 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Yes, it’s possible. I live closer to a track, now, and it doesn’t bother me at all; I quite like them going passed TBH... however, the stigma attached to HS2 and resulting property values is quite something!

I see that 60 to 120 metres is a categorised compo’ payout. However, I can’t seem to get a clear answer on distances and resulting compensation / value offers. 500 metres appears to be another threshold but not clear in what way, that that is the case.

Sheepshanks

38,979 posts

141 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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It feels like you dismissed the point above - it’s important to understand the direction and prevailing wind, especially as the disruption, noise, dust etc from building HS2 could be significant and go on for years.


greygoose

9,319 posts

217 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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vdn said:
Yes, it’s possible. I live closer to a track, now, and it doesn’t bother me at all; I quite like them going passed TBH... however, the stigma attached to HS2 and resulting property values is quite something!
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Is the track you are close to a high speed line? Is it in a cutting or fenced off, or is the HS2 section? As everyone else has pointed out the wind direction will determine the noise at the property, though it may be hard to judge if the actual track is not built yet.

guindilias

5,245 posts

142 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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I lived with a railway line maybe 20m away from the house, for a couple of years. Old rickety trains running on older wobbly lines.
You get used to it - we BBQd outside, ate outside, talked outside - it just gets natural to you. Talking away, hear a train coming, and you stop for 3 or 4 seconds while it passes and then continue on with the sentence. you get "Trainwashed", you just naturally adapt to it.

vdn

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225 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Fair points.

The ‘as the crow flies’ line see a housing estate - and then a long lasting dip down toward the proposed line. So the house is raised and has an estate and then trees / fields before the line. There is an existing line there now and so they’re actually using an existing stretch - but speaking with the potential neighbours - they are saying they’ve seen a dip in values despite being 500 m away and raised up from what is already an existing line.

It seems the stigma of HS2 is as / more damaging than the reality, perhaps.

Having said that; all points above noted and I’ll have a more detailed look at the situ’.

As for being already close to another, unrelated line - yes it’s a high speed line and it doesn’t bother me. I’ve also lived underneath a flight path; both in London and also, in rural countryside; also never bothered me. But I can see it bothers others and that’s fair enough. But HS2 along an existing line seems an odd issue to get hung up on. I’m hung up on it purely for perception / value implications; which may well be the same for the next buyer. I should note though, that this is a forever home - at least 20 years there before considering a move again...

BUT, I like to have options and if I did want to sell in 5 years; I would be concerned about values.

cossy400

3,411 posts

206 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Not for me, i prefer my peace and quiet.

But regarding house prices, with the route now being known a such, have the house prices already not taken a hit?

Meaning that you could possibly be the one coming off better in terms of size of house for your money.

PositronicRay

28,527 posts

205 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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I did a bit of looking into this a few yrs ago when we were moving.

I lot of work is going into NVH reduction. Trees shield noise better in summer than winter, prevailing wind and topography matter.

I don't think 500m is too big a deal, rather this than a motorway.

If it's the right place, at the right price, go for it. The HS2 stigma will die down once people are used to it.

BobSaunders

3,110 posts

177 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Nothing within one mile of it personally, but it will be dependent on the gradiant and exposure of the line.

Edited by BobSaunders on Monday 18th May 09:22

vdn

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9,225 posts

225 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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PositronicRay said:
I did a bit of looking into this a few yrs ago when we were moving.

I lot of work is going into NVH reduction. Trees shield noise better in summer than winter, prevailing wind and topography matter.

I don't think 500m is too big a deal, rather this than a motorway.

If it's the right place, at the right price, go for it. The HS2 stigma will die down once people are used to it.
I agree with your points. I suppose the market upon resell will be a tad limited by people that have a psychological barrier in their head of a certain distance away from a line (any line, I guess) - but should be fine.

beer

TwistingMyMelon

6,477 posts

227 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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The line When running wouldn’t bother me but the construction might

I would imagine there will be some serious piling and similar disruptive construction to build it , which you will feel/hear for miles

It could drag on for years

Depends how nice / cheap house is

vdn

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Monday 18th May 2020
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TwistingMyMelon said:
The line When running wouldn’t bother me but the construction might

I would imagine there will be some serious piling and similar disruptive construction to build it , which you will feel/hear for miles

It could drag on for years

Depends how nice / cheap house is
Fair points.

The stretch I refer to is on an existing train line - and so I hope that the disruption won’t be as bad as some other sections of the line... but I agree; line once completed won’t be the issue; more so the work.

KingPezzer

7 posts

167 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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The majority of HS2 will effectively be in a cutting, surrounded by man made embankments.

KAgantua

5,077 posts

153 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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My mum backs onto the Medway valley line. Its in a cutting, and its only a local line, so quite tranquil. You get a lot of freght and the occasional 'odd' thing like a track grnder etc. I like trains so not bad for me but it takes allsorts.

vdn

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225 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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I like trains too! Fingers crossed the disruption isn’t too bad for us.

beer

BobSaunders

3,110 posts

177 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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vdn said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
The line When running wouldn’t bother me but the construction might

I would imagine there will be some serious piling and similar disruptive construction to build it , which you will feel/hear for miles

It could drag on for years

Depends how nice / cheap house is
Fair points.

The stretch I refer to is on an existing train line - and so I hope that the disruption won’t be as bad as some other sections of the line... but I agree; line once completed won’t be the issue; more so the work.
Are they seeking to expand the line / cutting width? The plans are quite intricate, but with cost cutting etc. which will be needed you may see some changes in the plan coming.

vdn

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9,225 posts

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Monday 18th May 2020
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BobSaunders said:
vdn said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
The line When running wouldn’t bother me but the construction might

I would imagine there will be some serious piling and similar disruptive construction to build it , which you will feel/hear for miles

It could drag on for years

Depends how nice / cheap house is
Fair points.

The stretch I refer to is on an existing train line - and so I hope that the disruption won’t be as bad as some other sections of the line... but I agree; line once completed won’t be the issue; more so the work.
Are they seeking to expand the line / cutting width? The plans are quite intricate, but with cost cutting etc. which will be needed you may see some changes in the plan coming.
Yes I think there’s an element of the unknown - as things can change - but the landscape is such that they are to follow the existing line from what I understand. I think that because I, by chance, live closer than 500m already, to a train line - I’m not bothered about it, personally - more concerned about future values and people’s perceptions. However - 500m away, with an estate, forest and fields between; I’m sure that once completed; it wouldn’t bother anyone. The existing line cannot be seen from the house or garden.

I think it’s more that; buyers get searches back, with big bold red letters warning of ‘HS2!’ - which I hope calms once it’s actually complete; or of course; cancelled.

anonymous-user

76 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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I guess a lot of it depends on timeframe, if you are buying it to live in for 10+ years I cannot see an issue at all <5 years and it may still be a bit of a topic

vdn

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Monday 18th May 2020
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anonymous said:
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yes I agree with that. I think you’re right. Long term... should be ok. Although the timeline for HS2 is crazy and given the evidence of previous hold ups; consultations and shenanigans - it might be getting finished around 2050 at this rate. By then, we will all be in automated hydro cars running along multi storey motorways ... probably.