Upvc double glazed windows . Question
Upvc double glazed windows . Question
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philv

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5,121 posts

237 months

Friday 19th June 2020
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Hi,

I need new upvc double glazed windows.

I see there are different manufacturers.

Liner being towards the bottom,
Rehau towards the top.

If ordering rehau for instance, would they come with rehau hardware (handkes, locks, mechanisms) or is this generic?

Thanks

JimPD

114 posts

144 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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We have just had a full house of Rehau windows & doors
Very pleased with the quality

We got Planitherm glazing in them and would likewise recommend

Hardware (handles / catches etc) are marked MACO. So not Rehau hardware.
I am not sure that Rehau make their own locks. What you get may depend on installer. e.g. Our door locks are ABS Avocet and window locks ERA.






Edited by JimPD on Saturday 20th June 22:44

Carbon Sasquatch

5,147 posts

87 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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You might get more responses in the Homes, Gardens & DIY forum smile

ChrisNic

647 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Hopefully someone linked to the trade can confirm but as I understand it companies buy the materials from companies like Rehau and then make the frames to spec with it.

This means that you might have Rehau windows but the company that makes them might use cheap hardware and do a poor job of putting them together.

Picking the right supplier is as important as picking the right product.

As a side note we put Rehau into our house 2 years ago and have had zero problems with them.

[Edit] The word I was after was profile, Rehau produce profile and companies make windows/doors with it.

Edited by ChrisNic on Sunday 21st June 15:18

ollyprice87

296 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Hello,

I work for REHAU so can help a little - we make profile, the fabricator makes the actual window up so it would be down to them what handles etc... they use.

nikaiyo2

5,786 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Unless you are fabricating windows the profile really is pretty much of a muchness.

An A+ 15 Duraflex Window will give the same performance as an A+ 15 Rehau window, it might get there via slightly different means, but to a homeowner not sure you would ever tell the difference.

Only thing I would say, there are still firms fitting A rated windows that use hardcoat glass, avoid this as it lets 20% more heat out compared to a softcoat glass unit.

A badly fitted "good" profile will be worse than a well fitted crap profile.

Make your choice based on who is fitting it, that will make the most difference to a householder. The difference between A, B A+ (even C rated) is so small that you would never know the difference in the real world.

ollyprice87

296 posts

183 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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nikaiyo2 said:
Unless you are fabricating windows the profile really is pretty much of a muchness.

An A+ 15 Duraflex Window will give the same performance as an A+ 15 Rehau window, it might get there via slightly different means, but to a homeowner not sure you would ever tell the difference.

Only thing I would say, there are still firms fitting A rated windows that use hardcoat glass, avoid this as it lets 20% more heat out compared to a softcoat glass unit.

A badly fitted "good" profile will be worse than a well fitted crap profile.

Make your choice based on who is fitting it, that will make the most difference to a householder. The difference between A, B A+ (even C rated) is so small that you would never know the difference in the real world.
I agree a good profile fitted badly will look st and a layman will probably not notice a difference but you wouldn't believe the resources that goes into designing profile all the way through to extrusion, lamination then sale.

nikaiyo2

5,786 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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ollyprice87 said:
I agree a good profile fitted badly will look st and a layman will probably not notice a difference but you wouldn't believe the resources that goes into designing profile all the way through to extrusion, lamination then sale.
Oh yeah I can quite believe it, WERs shook the industry a fair bit.

It still amazes me that the profile manufacturers make great improvements with foam filling, flaps etc the glass companies tweak G/U values the spacer companies do their thing to improve performance. Then a bloke in a van slaps it in the hole with some expanding foam like it’s 1989


bazza white

3,728 posts

151 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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nikaiyo2 said:
ollyprice87 said:
I agree a good profile fitted badly will look st and a layman will probably not notice a difference but you wouldn't believe the resources that goes into designing profile all the way through to extrusion, lamination then sale.
Oh yeah I can quite believe it, WERs shook the industry a fair bit.

It still amazes me that the profile manufacturers make great improvements with foam filling, flaps etc the glass companies tweak G/U values the spacer companies do their thing to improve performance. Then a bloke in a van slaps it in the hole with some expanding foam like it’s 1989
Exactly why I'm fitting my own and then paying £220 to get them signed off. My brothers windows are decent but the installers were a real letdown.


monty999

1,220 posts

128 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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nikaiyo2 said:
Unless you are fabricating windows the profile really is pretty much of a muchness.

An A+ 15 Duraflex Window will give the same performance as an A+ 15 Rehau window, it might get there via slightly different means, but to a homeowner not sure you would ever tell the difference.

Only thing I would say, there are still firms fitting A rated windows that use hardcoat glass, avoid this as it lets 20% more heat out compared to a softcoat glass unit.

A badly fitted "good" profile will be worse than a well fitted crap profile.

Make your choice based on who is fitting it, that will make the most difference to a householder. The difference between A, B A+ (even C rated) is so small that you would never know the difference in the real world.
Yes, agree with all that but would also add that fabrication quality is definitely the starting point after profile choice (certainly better for installation if the frame is made correctly in the first place). A fitter will usually know their supplier/fabricator quality, OP beware the cheap windows as its usually quality control that gets sacrificed in the pricing process. Try to go for independent recommended if you can.

It is funny though that as the industry strived for ultimate thermal performance it can create the condensation 'dew' on the glass in some climatic conditions, which can be a concern to customers until it's explained to them why it can happen.

mikeyscott

1,200 posts

231 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Going through this at the moment and Rehau Vs Veka atm. I agree with finding a good installer. Had a Rehau partner be £5k more expensive and now they want to know what others have quoted. Maybe just quote competitvely to start with.

Circa 12 windows, back door and sliding patio door circa £10k

Saleen836

12,209 posts

232 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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I had Rehau windows fitted a little over a year ago and very pleased with the quality, upon ordering I asked if a couple of windows could have the handle set lower on the frame (easier to reach when closing when leaning over the worktop/bathroom unit) no problem and makes a big difference when closing the windows

nikaiyo2

5,786 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th September 2022
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mikeyscott said:
Going through this at the moment and Rehau Vs Veka atm. I agree with finding a good installer. Had a Rehau partner be £5k more expensive and now they want to know what others have quoted. Maybe just quote competitvely to start with.

Circa 12 windows, back door and sliding patio door circa £10k
Just seen where you are...

If you want Rehau maybe try Steve at Central Windows in Hamble?

Or Window Warehouse in Farlington for non Rehau (not sure if they fit mind?)

Not saying either will be the cheapest, but both are proper decent no nonsense companies.