Query - Nest/ Hive thermostat placement?
Query - Nest/ Hive thermostat placement?
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wax lyrical

Original Poster:

991 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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I'm hoping someone can advise. I'm planning to change my traditional thermostat and central heating/hot water control box with a Nest or Hive. Not sure which yet.

However, the current thermostat (and separate control box) are located in the hallway, not far from the front door - so every time the door opens, gusts of cold air reduce the temp in the hall and bugger up the thermostat reading.

If I get a Nest/ Hive, can I move the thermostat and if so where? I only want one control box in the house ideally - so not multiple thermostats in different rooms. Also want to avoid costly and messy rewiring of walls, etc.

Thanks in advance for all advice! smile

JP__FOX

594 posts

251 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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I've got the Hive set up... It comes with one box that replaces the existing thermostat on the wall and a separate unit (wireless) that you can put wherever you like to actually detect and control the temperature.

dirtbiker

1,354 posts

182 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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We've got a Nest and it just runs off a USB charger and can be moved wherever you want it. You'll need to wire the Heatlink box into your boiler but there's no requirement to retain your existing 12v thermostat wiring as part of the install.

g7jtk

1,787 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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You can use them on Wi-fi but they need a power supply. Micro usb phone charger works or you could relocate the old thermostat wireing to a new location

wax lyrical

Original Poster:

991 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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I want to avoid having to relocate the current thermostat wiring.


g7jtk said:
You can use them on Wi-fi but they need a power supply. Micro usb phone charger works or you could relocate the old thermostat wireing to a new location

Lincsls1

3,724 posts

156 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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The Hive thermostat is battery powered using 4 AA batteries.
It replaces both the thermostat and the current timer/programmer.
It can go where ever you want it.
This wireless thermostat talks to a receiver that will need hard wiring into the system, usually this goes where the old timer currently is.
Good bit of kit.

surveyor

18,393 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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g7jtk said:
You can use them on Wi-fi but they need a power supply. Micro usb phone charger works or you could relocate the old thermostat wireing to a new location
Not Hive. That runs on battery's.

Lincsls1

3,724 posts

156 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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The wiring from the old thermostat can be disconnected and linked out from the main junction box (system/boiler type depending) and then you can either leave existing stat in place or remove it and fix the decor.

gfreeman

1,758 posts

266 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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As Lincsls1 said....

You can buy a hive thermostat without the hub for around £90 - £100.

You only need the hub for Hive "Active Heating" where you plug in the hub and control stuff from your phone. This is more expensive but if you can do without Active Heating the thermostat and receiver can be installed in ‘stand-alone’ mode.

In ‘stand-alone’ mode the thermostat acts as a standard wireless programmable thermostat.

You can abandon your thermostat and its wiring and install just the receiver in place of your old programmer and if it has an industry standard backplate it is a straight swap (provided it was wired correctly in the first place!).

Once the receiver is in place and paired with your Hive thermostat you can wander round the house with it, use their stand or fix it wherever you like and control your heating and hot water from there.

It runs off four batteries same as with the hub..

Edited by gfreeman on Tuesday 30th November 20:25

wax lyrical

Original Poster:

991 posts

257 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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Thanks for all the comments and advice. Much appreciated! smile

peterperkins

3,266 posts

258 months

Monday 20th January
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Thread resurrection.. Advice please.

I'm in the same boat as the OP.

Looking for current recommendations for a boiler controller with remote thermostat and linked phone app.

I def do not want anything with a monthly subscription if at all possible.

What setups have people got/etc..

Thanks for the idea..

Byker28i

76,459 posts

233 months

Monday 20th January
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I fitted Hive to our old house myself. Really easy, all the instructions are on the support site. Mine was only 5 wires. One control box wired to the boiler, the thermostat placed anywhere you want it, and obviously the hive hub to connect the devices.

https://www.hivehome.com/guides/hive-heating

ooo000ooo

2,628 posts

210 months

Monday 20th January
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I've had a Hive for a few years, simple to set up and use.

One thing that i haven't seen mentioned, if you use the hive hub and thus the app to remotely fiddle with your heating, you have to register it with an email address. You can never "unregister" it. If you move house you can't hand over control of it to the new owner.
When i last moved i brought the old hub with me, left the old thermostat in the old house, bought a new hive kit for the new house and gave the new hub to the people who bought the old house.
In hindsight i should have created a house specific email address at the time which i could hand over to them. I'd imagine this could be an issue with any house that has a load of smart features built into them?

Downward

4,710 posts

119 months

Monday 20th January
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Yeah Hive seems fine. Had it for many many years now.
Generally use the thermostat as it’s quicker just to turn the heating down or boost it.

When we 1st had it we worked in the office full time so it was good for routines as everyone got home from end of school at 3.30pm to end of work about 5.30pm.

Now it’s all home working I don’t use schedules

Byker28i

76,459 posts

233 months

Monday 20th January
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When you move house, you delete the devices, hub last. New owner creates an account and adds the devices hub first.
It claims you can't move hubs, but we did with the Hub360

You don't 'hand over' the account

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 20th January 11:08

ooo000ooo

2,628 posts

210 months

Monday 20th January
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Byker28i said:
When you move house, you delete the devices, hub last. New owner creates an account and adds the devices hub first.
It claims you can't move hubs, but we did with the Hub360

You don't 'hand over' the account

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 20th January 11:08
Is that a recent thing? We moved 3 years ago and couldn't find a way of doing it.

Byker28i

76,459 posts

233 months

Monday 20th January
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ooo000ooo said:
Is that a recent thing? We moved 3 years ago and couldn't find a way of doing it.
Dunno if new but I did it this way in Oct

RustyMX5

8,690 posts

233 months

Monday 20th January
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I'm using a Nest and no subscription is required. It can be 'fun' to get to grips with though but works well enough.

peterperkins

3,266 posts

258 months

Wednesday 22nd January
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Google Nest seems to get a bit of a bashing online.

Any thoughts on these?

https://www.screwfix.com/p/drayton-wiser-wireless-...

RustyMX5

8,690 posts

233 months

Wednesday 22nd January
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peterperkins said:
Google Nest seems to get a bit of a bashing online.

Any thoughts on these?

https://www.screwfix.com/p/drayton-wiser-wireless-...
My nest has had to be replaced twice but it was all done under warranty. I've grown to like it but there are times when I want to yell and scream at it too.