Going to need a new washer dryer soon - any suggestions?
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Our old Hotpoint washer dryer has developed the "knackered bearing racket of doom. Because of the way this model is built it's not actually possible to replace just the bearing, instead the whole drum has to be replaced. Consequently I'm more inclined to simply replace the machine - it's 10 years old, generally gets used at least once a day, and wasn't particularly expensive in the first place, so can't really complain.
I'm hoping that it'll last another couple of weeks and then I might be able to bag a bargain in the sales. Question is what to go for?
The new equivalent Hotpoint is about £400 at the mo. I'm put off by the lack of repairability demonstrated by our current machine, and we do seem to have been lucky with ours lasting this long.
A Miele would be nice and would probably outlive me, but I cannot bring myself to pay four figures for a poxy domestic appliance! Maybe if there's a hefty discount on offer.
Have seen a Haier on AO for £700, which looks alright but I've never heard of the brand, are they decent or just more cheap tat?
LG and Samsung keep cropping up, have a dim view of Samsung based on one crap microwave and two crap phones, but this might be unjustified.
Sharp have a machine at £450, for that price I'm guessing they don't manufacture them in Japan any more?
Criteria are...
Freestanding washer dryer (note, no means to vent a dryer, although IIRC washer dryers all use a condenser anyway)
8kg+ wash load capability (max dryer load is less important)
Stainless steel or silver/grey finish (to match our other appliances)
Reliable and repairable enough to last at least another 10 years
Budget up to £750 (hopefully January sales will make this go a bit further!)
Delay timer and quick wash are useful to have.
Don't care about wifi or Bluetooth or any other gimmicks.
Any recommendations welcome!
Cheers.
I'm hoping that it'll last another couple of weeks and then I might be able to bag a bargain in the sales. Question is what to go for?
The new equivalent Hotpoint is about £400 at the mo. I'm put off by the lack of repairability demonstrated by our current machine, and we do seem to have been lucky with ours lasting this long.
A Miele would be nice and would probably outlive me, but I cannot bring myself to pay four figures for a poxy domestic appliance! Maybe if there's a hefty discount on offer.
Have seen a Haier on AO for £700, which looks alright but I've never heard of the brand, are they decent or just more cheap tat?
LG and Samsung keep cropping up, have a dim view of Samsung based on one crap microwave and two crap phones, but this might be unjustified.
Sharp have a machine at £450, for that price I'm guessing they don't manufacture them in Japan any more?
Criteria are...
Freestanding washer dryer (note, no means to vent a dryer, although IIRC washer dryers all use a condenser anyway)
8kg+ wash load capability (max dryer load is less important)
Stainless steel or silver/grey finish (to match our other appliances)
Reliable and repairable enough to last at least another 10 years
Budget up to £750 (hopefully January sales will make this go a bit further!)
Delay timer and quick wash are useful to have.
Don't care about wifi or Bluetooth or any other gimmicks.
Any recommendations welcome!
Cheers.
Apparently heat pump dryers are the latest tech, cost less to run because they use less energy.
I found this website elekdirect.co.uk which is the AO outlet, seems to have some good deals on slightly damaged stuff, some have dents and marks where you are never going to see them anyway.
I found this website elekdirect.co.uk which is the AO outlet, seems to have some good deals on slightly damaged stuff, some have dents and marks where you are never going to see them anyway.
Jonny_ said:
LG and Samsung keep cropping up, have a dim view of Samsung based on one crap microwave and two crap phones, but this might be unjustified.
When we moved into our current place 2 years ago, there was a Samsung washer dryer in place. Its now coming up 9 years old, and it needed a new door seal rubber back in the summer, but otherwise, its OK. I wouldn't be against getting another Samsung tbh, especially as like you, a white machine is not really fitting with the rest of the kitchen.Had a Miele (washing machine only) in our last place that we reluctantly left, and that was coming up 8 years old and still like new.....they are excellent.
At my holiday home I have been using a three year old Zanussi ZWD 71460 washer dryer, that takes roughly three hours to complete a wash/dry. Whilst I appreciate space might be a priority, nevertheless with a separate washer and dryer, whilst the first wash was drying in a separate dryer, i could have started on a second wash.
Today the above heater element and fan stopped working, and although I have another washer dryer (AEG L61271WDBI) in the property, decided in order to speed up the washing cycles, to both purchase a separate dryer, and also book a repair for the Zanussi washer dryer.
My post is not intended as a criticism of the Zanussi, and/or a praise of the AEG, and would suggest that a washing machine engineer might offer the best advice for reliability, cost of repairs etc. etc.
Today the above heater element and fan stopped working, and although I have another washer dryer (AEG L61271WDBI) in the property, decided in order to speed up the washing cycles, to both purchase a separate dryer, and also book a repair for the Zanussi washer dryer.
My post is not intended as a criticism of the Zanussi, and/or a praise of the AEG, and would suggest that a washing machine engineer might offer the best advice for reliability, cost of repairs etc. etc.
Cheers all.
No heat pump washer dryers are within my budget, but energy efficiency on the drying cycle is not a massive priority anyway, as we try to use the drying feature as sparingly as possible.
Poking around online I'm leaning towards LG, they've got a couple of machines within budget that look decent, and their laundry appliances generally seem to rate highly for reliability.
On the shortlist are a 9kg LG machine at £600 and a 10kg one at £750. The 10kg has the same internal drum dimensions as the 9kg, so I'm guessing that it must have beefier bearings to increase the load rating, and so should theoretically last longer if we refrain from cramming it full...?
Will see if the sales bring the prices down next week.
No heat pump washer dryers are within my budget, but energy efficiency on the drying cycle is not a massive priority anyway, as we try to use the drying feature as sparingly as possible.
Poking around online I'm leaning towards LG, they've got a couple of machines within budget that look decent, and their laundry appliances generally seem to rate highly for reliability.
On the shortlist are a 9kg LG machine at £600 and a 10kg one at £750. The 10kg has the same internal drum dimensions as the 9kg, so I'm guessing that it must have beefier bearings to increase the load rating, and so should theoretically last longer if we refrain from cramming it full...?
Will see if the sales bring the prices down next week.
Used to have a washer/dryer in a flat many years ago, when it died we found space to put in a stacked pair of separate machines. So much better than a combined machine, if you have the space.
If the current machine has lasted 10 years, then replacing it with the same one at £400 seems good value. 10 years sounds good for a combined washer/dryer.
If the current machine has lasted 10 years, then replacing it with the same one at £400 seems good value. 10 years sounds good for a combined washer/dryer.
Europa Jon said:
Jonny, can you stack a separate washer and dryer? If you can, there are many advantages in doing so.
I can't comment on modern washer dryers, but the older ones were poor at drying. Like anything, squeezing multiple functions into one box rarely goes well. Combi boiler, anyone???
Unfortunately not, the kitchen layout doesn't allow for this, and we've nowhere else that you could reasonably put a dryer. Next house we buy is definitely going to have a proper utility room! (My other half once suggested we have a dryer in our (single) garage... Absolutely not, that's where the Capri and all my tools live, last thing that I need in there is a big bulky box emitting moist air! I can't comment on modern washer dryers, but the older ones were poor at drying. Like anything, squeezing multiple functions into one box rarely goes well. Combi boiler, anyone???
)Do agree that a combined washer/dryer is not as good at drying as a dedicated tumble dryer. Fortunately we don't need to use the drying function very often, but from time to time it's invaluable.
Definitely a Miele - if there is something affordable on the Miele outlet centre online.
I've got a Miele washer and dryer from there for £350 each.
I haven't read all replies yet - but if there is any way at all of separating them, I would. Including putting a condenser dryer somewhere else - even in the garage or somewhere.
Edit - just looked and the outlet has this model at £840 - so £90 over budget but it's a Miele!
https://www.miele.co.uk/e/wt1-washer-dryer-wtd-165...
Another edit - just read you've specifically ruled out the garage!
I've got a Miele washer and dryer from there for £350 each.
I haven't read all replies yet - but if there is any way at all of separating them, I would. Including putting a condenser dryer somewhere else - even in the garage or somewhere.
Edit - just looked and the outlet has this model at £840 - so £90 over budget but it's a Miele!
https://www.miele.co.uk/e/wt1-washer-dryer-wtd-165...
Another edit - just read you've specifically ruled out the garage!
Edited by RobbieTheTruth on Saturday 25th December 23:22
Edited by RobbieTheTruth on Saturday 25th December 23:24
Similar situation. Had this advice from a independent repairman.
Washer George said:
I’d recommend a Bosch or a beko. Miele aren’t bad but aren’t half as good as they used to be and considering they still cost an arm and a leg I wouldn’t touch them as it’s a waste of money in my eyes. Siemens is just expensive Bosch so I’d recommend Bosch. Beko are also good if you get something mid range onwards. If you get Bosch I’d recommend series 4
This year I replaced my Beko washer dryer with a Bosch. The Beko failed after 2 years and the repair cost effectively meant the machine was a write off. To be fair it was cheap but in the end the nasty variety rather than cheerful. I was also looking at an LG, who give a longer warranty as standard, but it went out of stock so Bosch it was.
I bought all Bosch Excel white goods when I moved in 13 years ago and they're all going strong. Of course that only tells you Bosch were reliable 13 years ago and nothing about thier newer stuff.
Jonny_ said:
My other half once suggested we have a dryer in our (single) garage... Absolutely not, that's where the Capri and all my tools live, last thing that I need in there is a big bulky box emitting moist air!
If you put it in the garage it would be easy to put in a vent for a conventional one rather than condensor so no moist air in the garage.RizzoTheRat said:
I bought all Bosch Excel white goods when I moved in 13 years ago and they're all going strong. Of course that only tells you Bosch were reliable 13 years ago and nothing about thier newer stuff.
Isn't the idea of condenser dryer is that it captures the moisture from the clothes and it condenses into a built in container so it doesnt emit dam air into the room?Jonny_ said:
My other half once suggested we have a dryer in our (single) garage... Absolutely not, that's where the Capri and all my tools live, last thing that I need in there is a big bulky box emitting moist air!
If you put it in the garage it would be easy to put in a vent for a conventional one rather than condensor so no moist air in the garage.Mrs pistonsquirter () is German and thinks it’s disgusting ‘you English’ have laundry equipment in the kitchen - it should be upstairs.. mine doesn’t fit in the bathroom but the concept is worthy of consideration.. old cylinder cupboard would be a good shout.
To be fair she has a point - most laundry starts upstairs anyway
) is German and thinks it’s disgusting ‘you English’ have laundry equipment in the kitchen - it should be upstairs.. mine doesn’t fit in the bathroom but the concept is worthy of consideration.. old cylinder cupboard would be a good shout.To be fair she has a point - most laundry starts upstairs anyway
Thanks for all the input.
I'm sticking with the combined washer/dryer as we've no room for a separate dryer - garage space is far too precious to waste it accomodating domestic appliances!
Have ordered an LG machine, a FWV796STSE. Ticks all the boxes for us and the brand seems to have a decent reputation for quality. As domestic appliances go it looks smart enough too. Fingers crossed that we get 10+ years out of this one too.
Grand total just under £600 including delivery and disposal of the old machine, from AO.
I'm sticking with the combined washer/dryer as we've no room for a separate dryer - garage space is far too precious to waste it accomodating domestic appliances!
Have ordered an LG machine, a FWV796STSE. Ticks all the boxes for us and the brand seems to have a decent reputation for quality. As domestic appliances go it looks smart enough too. Fingers crossed that we get 10+ years out of this one too.
Grand total just under £600 including delivery and disposal of the old machine, from AO.
RobbieTheTruth said:
Definitely a Miele - if there is something affordable on the Miele outlet centre online.
I've got a Miele washer and dryer from there for £350 each.
Seems like a bargain...?I've got a Miele washer and dryer from there for £350 each.
Miele are currently advertised hard that their heatpump dryers pay for themselves with reduced running costs.
dhutch said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Definitely a Miele - if there is something affordable on the Miele outlet centre online.
I've got a Miele washer and dryer from there for £350 each.
Seems like a bargain...?I've got a Miele washer and dryer from there for £350 each.
Miele are currently advertised hard that their heatpump dryers pay for themselves with reduced running costs.
Well since my post on 21 December, my son's and daughter inlaw's washer dryer has packed up. Today the engineer called to repair my washer dryer, finding that one of the heat sensors was at fault. Not having the correct sensor made a temporary repair, so needs to call back.
I first asked the engineer the obvious question, "would you purchase a washer dryer", the answer being a resounding "No", for the same reason I previously posted. Then I asked the engineer "Jonny wanted to know any recommendations for a washer dryer", the engineer's reply was "Miele".
I first asked the engineer the obvious question, "would you purchase a washer dryer", the answer being a resounding "No", for the same reason I previously posted. Then I asked the engineer "Jonny wanted to know any recommendations for a washer dryer", the engineer's reply was "Miele".
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