Fence down...

[fourstardan]

Sure a lot of these will pop up this weekend.

Fence has just gone down that adjoins next door to the left.

Land registry has a red line all around my boundary, does that mean its my accountability?

[SS2.]

Off the mark before the storm has even subsided

Are there T marks on the registry plan ?

Like this:

Edited by SS2. on Friday 18th February 13:09

[Turbobanana]

Grey area, if my experience of 3 years ago is anything to go by. Land Registry was inconclusive - I ended up going half / half with the neighbours who were quite happy to contribute.

Ironically my wife has just sent me a pic of THE SAME FENCE which has blown down again this morning.

Grrr....

[fourstardan]

This is what's on the land registry so no H/T.

[Chrisgr31]

Speak to neighbour. Unless his plan shows different just go halves although this becomes fraught if they want to use the worlds most expensive contractor and you dont.

[TimmyMallett]

Man down. Although I think it's my side, my neighbour is excellent about it and splits it 50/50 and this will be the second time it will have needed repairing in a year.

Have a chat with your neighbour. They might have a firm opinion. They might not. They might be open to splitting it or even think it's theirs.

Edited by TimmyMallett on Friday 18th February 14:41

[Tommo87]

fourstardan said:

This is what's on the land registry so no H/T.

That’s not the right map.

You should have been given the correct map as part of your purchase/conveyancng paperwork. That map will often have the whole property shaded and affix a T marker to each boundary line showing the fencing responsibilities.

[anonymous-user]

Chrisgr31 said:

Speak to neighbour. Unless his plan shows different just go halves although this becomes fraught if they want to use the worlds most expensive contractor and you don't.

Or worse, they refuse to contribute at all and claim they "Aren't bothered about having a fence anyway" while knowing full well you will give in at some point and pay for the entire fence yourself just to get it sorted.

Had that in the past when I lived in a city centre surrounded by neighbours fences and fence panels in the back garden. I now have only one fence, at the rear of my house, and it is simply a farmers post and wire fence to keep sheep out, and I will be forever grateful for not having 'urban' type fences anymore. They are a load of ste that need constant maintenance, painting, replacement, and seem to blow down every time it's stormy weather.

[Jakg]

Tommo87 said:

fourstardan said:

This is what's on the land registry so no H/T.

That’s not the right map.

You should have been given the correct map as part of your purchase/conveyancng paperwork. That map will often have the whole property shaded and affix a T marker to each boundary line showing the fencing responsibilities.

What is the right one then? My title plan shows the same for my house, and the one I lived at before. No markers on either.

[MustangGT]

You need to get one with a much larger scale representation (smaller ratio), they come in several scales.

[Tommo87]

Jakg said:

Tommo87 said:

fourstardan said:

This is what's on the land registry so no H/T.

That’s not the right map.

You should have been given the correct map as part of your purchase/conveyancng paperwork. That map will often have the whole property shaded and affix a T marker to each boundary line showing the fencing responsibilities.

What is the right one then? My title plan shows the same for my house, and the one I lived at before. No markers on either.

Google says you need the £30 deed search plan.




This is the link from that land registry page to order one.

https://www.landregistry-titledeeds.co.uk/land-reg...

Edit.
I have just pulled mine out of the filing cabinet as the fence between myself and a new neighbour is leaning over. The fence was put in over 10 years ago by his predecessor, but I expect a knock at some point to ask who’s it is.

Edited by Tommo87 on Friday 18th February 15:22

[Lotobear]

Whilst not necessarily conclusive there's a common presumption that the fence is usually owned by the land faced by the posts and the 'fair' side is on the neigbouring side. The 'nail home' principle

[fat80b]

A section of ours nearly went over this morning. It was a touch wobbly a while back but I made the executive decision to ignore it!

Had the wife out hanging on to it this morning as during the worst of the gusts, it looks like a section with wooden posts was about to go over (3 panels) - interestingly the rest of the posts are concrete apart from these 3....

We managed to use some ratchet straps and trampoline ground anchors to secure it and it looks like it is going to be solid enough to hold through.

I guess replacing / adding some new concrete posts is moving to the top of the maintenance list....

[gregch]

fat80b said:

I guess replacing / adding some new concrete posts is moving to the top of the maintenance list....

Well I was congratulating myself earlier on having got the rotten posts firmly anchored on new concrete spurs before this weather arrived... sadly, not only have a couple of panels just been punched out, the panels that survived are currently rocking their attached posts (and their concrete spurs) back and forth and now the whole lot just flaps in the wind despite having two foot of concrete attached to them...

[Skyedriver]

Surprised it's not in the wording of the Deeds if not on the plan

[Skyedriver]

Surprised it's not in the wording of the Deeds if not on the plan

[TA14]

Skyedriver said:

Surprised it's not in the wording of the Deeds if not on the plan

There's often no way of telling.

As above, speak to neighbour first and take it from there.

[MJG280]

'This is the link from that land registry page to order one.

https://www.landregistry-titledeeds.co.uk/land-reg...

Don't use that link it is NOT the Land Registry. They connect to the LR and charge a fee The Land Registry charge £3 for the written part

This is the correct link from the land registry. Always look out for the gov.uk

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/land-r...

[fat80b]

Half of our neighbour's fence blew down about 2 weeks ago.

It was sat on the floor for a week until a fencer could come out (on Thursday) and repair it.

This morning, the bit of fence the other side of their gate went the same way......

[fourstardan]

Well I went round earlier and he already had the deeds in his hands when he answered the door.

Nothing like a bit of love thy neighbour is there!

I did think about building a brick wall lol but I've ordered the appropriate materials and shall do a better job myself and bite my tongue.

I could search my deeds but only seem to have the one I showed and can't see it going anywhere without aggro.

If I go for the deeds is the T & H going to be on there??? Just wondering if it is worth buying it for the 30 quid based on other fencing I have ever going.

Edited by fourstardan on Friday 18th February 21:01