Toilet help!
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audi321

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5,977 posts

237 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Hi all. Please help before I throw this toilet out of the window lol.

It’s one of those Victorian toilets with the cistern high up on the wall and a chrome pipe going down into the pan.

It’s about 15 years old although I’m just getting round to fitting it lol. And because of this the original seal is perished. I’ve tried to get another and I can’t so I thought I’d use one of those rubber waste pipe bosses. Now I think it will fit but because the chrome pipe is shiny (being chrome) it doesn’t seal very well in the middle and is very slippery and it leaks quite badly.

Any ideas what I can seal it with or put around the chrome pipe to give it some grip? Any course tape or anything like that out there? Thanks all. I’m almost at the point of giving up after being at it most of the day!

Here’s a pic, the plumbers mate seals the rubber onto the porcelain nicely, it’s the chrome pipe which I’m having issues with.



Edited by audi321 on Saturday 19th February 21:33

cml24

1,553 posts

171 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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I'd try fernox lsx. I've used it in a few locations including sealing the waste of the bathroom sink which I couldn't get to seal at all, but has been fine for nearly a year now.

audi321

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Saturday 19th February 2022
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cml24 said:
I'd try fernox lsx. I've used it in a few locations including sealing the waste of the bathroom sink which I couldn't get to seal at all, but has been fine for nearly a year now.
Oh good shout and I’ve even got some to try (well the Screwfix equivalent). Would you put the boss in first and slide the pipe in with lsx in the rubber hole? Or the other way round? Just worried the lsx will just push through when I push the pipe in (hence I was thinking some sort of tape around the pipe)?

cml24

1,553 posts

171 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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As I posted that, I was thinking about tape as well to bulk out the pipe a bit and get a better seal.

Try the tape first maybe? Easier to take it off perhaps.

I'd put the rubber seal on the pipe first I think, but finish assembling before it set/dried.

audi321

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Saturday 19th February 2022
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What sort of tape though?

finlo

4,304 posts

227 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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PTFE? Probably something better these days though.

Tymb

225 posts

119 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Self amalgamating tape would probably be better than ptfe, stretch it as you put it on, create a bit of a dome and it should pretty much become a solid lump of rubber after a while. It’s meant for covering electrical joints but have used it on various low pressure pipes as packing over the years.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/self-amalgamating-rubbe...

Tye Green

955 posts

133 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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could you put some 'O' rings inside the rubber?

these would be of such a diameter and thickness that would fit on the chrome pipe and sit in the 'troughs' of the rubber boss so the net effect is that the O rings would seal between the pipe and the rubber. fit them in the troughs of the rubber with a little fairy liquid and then push the assembly onto the chrome pipe.

audi321

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Saturday 19th February 2022
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Thanks guys. I’ll try that rubber tape as it might just give me the grip I need on the chrome.

Not sure the O rings would work as it’d need to be the precise size and thickness and I’d doubt I could get them easily.

Tye Green

955 posts

133 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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pretty much any O ring size available on ebay.

another possibility would be to cut a piece of bycicle inner tube and stretch over the chrome pipe. each time you do it the effective diameter of pipe increases about 1 - 2mm

g7jtk

1,826 posts

178 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Go to your Plumbers merchant and ask for an external cone. You have an internal cone there. Soak it in warm water to soften it just before you fit it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Viva-External-Rubber-Flus...

Edited by g7jtk on Saturday 19th February 23:10

P13cur

59 posts

89 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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g7jtk said:
Go to your Plumbers merchant and ask for an external cone. You have an internal cone there. Soak it in warm water to soften it just before you fit it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Viva-External-Rubber-Flus...

Edited by g7jtk on Saturday 19th February 23:10
This do it right there's a few different flush pipe adaptors and they are cheap

audi321

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Sunday 20th February 2022
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Just to finish this off, I bought some of that self amalgamating rubber tape, and what great stuff it is. I never even knew such stuff existed and I wrapped it around the chrome pipe, then it made a lovely seal inside the boss. So far so good!

Thanks again all for your help!

g7jtk

1,826 posts

178 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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audi321 said:
Just to finish this off, I bought some of that self amalgamating rubber tape, and what great stuff it is. I never even knew such stuff existed and I wrapped it around the chrome pipe, then it made a lovely seal inside the boss. So far so good!

Thanks again all for your help!
Bodge 🙄