Average bills for 4-5 bed house
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Hi All,
Apologies as this is entirely not car related, however over the years I have come to trust the opinions of users on this forum in various matters that are not necessarily always related to 4-wheeled fun.
As the title says, I'm looking for a rough indication of what kind of bills one can expect on a 4-5 bed house.
I am referring to energy specifically as I am unable to form my own opinion based on experience due to having lived in a flat with communal heating that also supplies hot water (so I've been paying service charges instead which include a bunch of things other than just heating).
I'm trying to get a feel for what I can expect if I move out and to into a reasonably sized house (let's say 150sqm) and what it would cost in gas mainly as I've never had to heat a house myself if you see what I mean. If anyone can provide rough estimates for winter months compared to summer, or even just an overall annual expenditure that would be great!
Thank you in advance.
Apologies as this is entirely not car related, however over the years I have come to trust the opinions of users on this forum in various matters that are not necessarily always related to 4-wheeled fun.
As the title says, I'm looking for a rough indication of what kind of bills one can expect on a 4-5 bed house.
I am referring to energy specifically as I am unable to form my own opinion based on experience due to having lived in a flat with communal heating that also supplies hot water (so I've been paying service charges instead which include a bunch of things other than just heating).
I'm trying to get a feel for what I can expect if I move out and to into a reasonably sized house (let's say 150sqm) and what it would cost in gas mainly as I've never had to heat a house myself if you see what I mean. If anyone can provide rough estimates for winter months compared to summer, or even just an overall annual expenditure that would be great!
Thank you in advance.
New Post inflation rates for me look like dual fuel of £200 per month, but only two of us and a dog.
Should say that's a 3 bed detached old stone cottage, with a 2 room loft conversion decent double glazed windows and central heating, but obviously not as insulated as modern builds
Should say that's a 3 bed detached old stone cottage, with a 2 room loft conversion decent double glazed windows and central heating, but obviously not as insulated as modern builds
Edited by sociopath on Friday 22 April 17:20
5-bed 1970's detached. A bit over 2000sq/ft, at a guess.
Last months (latest bill) gas and elec usage Bulb was saying we've used approx £275. I find that hard to get my head around because the heating has only cut in first thing in the morning. I had previously guestimated gas&elec would be approx £4k/yr when the next price cap comes in. Our thermostat is set to 21 degrees and comes in twice a day - 5:30am to 7:00am and again at 5:30pm to 8:30pm. Washing machine on twice a day. Tumble dryer twice a day. Oven probably twice a day. 2 x fridges. 2 x freezers. Deffo will be buying extra jumpers for next winter
^^^ That's for 3 x adults and 1 x kid. Showers (1 of which is electric) used at least 4-5 x day.
Last months (latest bill) gas and elec usage Bulb was saying we've used approx £275. I find that hard to get my head around because the heating has only cut in first thing in the morning. I had previously guestimated gas&elec would be approx £4k/yr when the next price cap comes in. Our thermostat is set to 21 degrees and comes in twice a day - 5:30am to 7:00am and again at 5:30pm to 8:30pm. Washing machine on twice a day. Tumble dryer twice a day. Oven probably twice a day. 2 x fridges. 2 x freezers. Deffo will be buying extra jumpers for next winter
^^^ That's for 3 x adults and 1 x kid. Showers (1 of which is electric) used at least 4-5 x day.
Edited by Phooey on Friday 22 April 17:26
5 bed semi 2 adults 2 kids £1500 wfh covered the last 12 months for gas and electricity BEFORE the cap increase now on a standard variable tariff.
Worryingly we were away on holiday for a fortnight in April, I'd upped our DD by 100 quid. Did a meter update and we seem to still owe 40 quid..
Worryingly we were away on holiday for a fortnight in April, I'd upped our DD by 100 quid. Did a meter update and we seem to still owe 40 quid..
There's going to be so much variation based on the age, insulation levels and construction of the house, as well as how it's heated and what cooking appliances etc you have.
About 18 months ago we moved into a 4/5 bed 80s built chalet style house (approx 130sqm footprint, upstairs a bit smaller), its got modern double glazing and it's reasonably well insulated for a house of it's age although there are areas around the dormers and sloped ceiling areas of the bedrooms that are pretty poor. We've got a new gas boiler, 250L tank, retrofit UFH downstairs and rads upstairs and cook with electric induction hob, hob and microwave.
Currently we average about 8-12kwh of electric per day (not massively different to our old 3 bed semi) and anything from 50kwh to 140kwh of gas when the heating is on in winter depending on outside temps, and I'd guess about 20-30kwh to heat water in the summer. That equates to around 50%-75% more than our old house (less than half the size) with similar insulation levels and we currently pay around £300/month direct debit on the current capped tariff post April '22. On top of that there's also £300/month council tax which is double what our old 3 bed semi was so another thing to consider.
About 18 months ago we moved into a 4/5 bed 80s built chalet style house (approx 130sqm footprint, upstairs a bit smaller), its got modern double glazing and it's reasonably well insulated for a house of it's age although there are areas around the dormers and sloped ceiling areas of the bedrooms that are pretty poor. We've got a new gas boiler, 250L tank, retrofit UFH downstairs and rads upstairs and cook with electric induction hob, hob and microwave.
Currently we average about 8-12kwh of electric per day (not massively different to our old 3 bed semi) and anything from 50kwh to 140kwh of gas when the heating is on in winter depending on outside temps, and I'd guess about 20-30kwh to heat water in the summer. That equates to around 50%-75% more than our old house (less than half the size) with similar insulation levels and we currently pay around £300/month direct debit on the current capped tariff post April '22. On top of that there's also £300/month council tax which is double what our old 3 bed semi was so another thing to consider.
Phooey said:
5-bed 1970's detached. A bit over 2000sq/ft, at a guess.
Last months (latest bill) gas and elec usage Bulb was saying we've used approx £275. I find that hard to get my head around because the heating has only cut in first thing in the morning. I had previously guestimated gas&elec would be approx £4k/yr when the next price cap comes in. Our thermostat is set to 21 degrees and comes in twice a day - 5:30am to 7:00am and again at 5:30pm to 8:30pm. Washing machine on twice a day. Tumble dryer twice a day. Oven probably twice a day. 2 x fridges. 2 x freezers. Deffo will be buying extra jumpers for next winter
^^^ That's for 3 x adults and 1 x kid. Showers (1 of which is electric) used at least 4-5 x day.
Washing machine and tumble dryer twice a day? Are you all sLast months (latest bill) gas and elec usage Bulb was saying we've used approx £275. I find that hard to get my head around because the heating has only cut in first thing in the morning. I had previously guestimated gas&elec would be approx £4k/yr when the next price cap comes in. Our thermostat is set to 21 degrees and comes in twice a day - 5:30am to 7:00am and again at 5:30pm to 8:30pm. Washing machine on twice a day. Tumble dryer twice a day. Oven probably twice a day. 2 x fridges. 2 x freezers. Deffo will be buying extra jumpers for next winter
^^^ That's for 3 x adults and 1 x kid. Showers (1 of which is electric) used at least 4-5 x day.
Edited by Phooey on Friday 22 April 17:26
tting the bed and yourselves every night? I’m lucky as fixed June last year, until June 23
£1800 a year
I assume it would be around £2700 at current rates
Likely to be £3600 from next October, if the doomy predictions turn out to be right!
My new boiler/induction hob(to replace gas range)/new appliances, as part of home improvement should offset that a bit
£1800 a year
I assume it would be around £2700 at current rates
Likely to be £3600 from next October, if the doomy predictions turn out to be right!
My new boiler/induction hob(to replace gas range)/new appliances, as part of home improvement should offset that a bit
Thanks all for the replies. My basis for comparison is that I'm coming from over £400 a month I'm service charges which admittedly is for 6 months of 24/7 heating plus permanent hot water but I can't help bit feel that a house is cheaper at least on the energy front.
The service charges do of course have things such as building insurance, lifts, maintenance, gardener, porter etc but still...
The service charges do of course have things such as building insurance, lifts, maintenance, gardener, porter etc but still...
2600sq ft - 5 bed.
The council tax is my only quibble. £320 a month for a bi-weekly bin collection. Still, first world issue.
Water bill is no more than any other house.
Gas / Electric - amazingly I've not even noticed the difference from the 3 bed. £1200 for the year. (budget for £2500)
The biggest bill will be a mortgage (if you have one - PBPHD)
Insurance is £150 a year.
The council tax is my only quibble. £320 a month for a bi-weekly bin collection. Still, first world issue.
Water bill is no more than any other house.
Gas / Electric - amazingly I've not even noticed the difference from the 3 bed. £1200 for the year. (budget for £2500)
The biggest bill will be a mortgage (if you have one - PBPHD)
Insurance is £150 a year.
Artsy said:
Thanks all for the replies. My basis for comparison is that I'm coming from over £400 a month I'm service charges which admittedly is for 6 months of 24/7 heating plus permanent hot water but I can't help bit feel that a house is cheaper at least on the energy front.
The service charges do of course have things such as building insurance, lifts, maintenance, gardener, porter etc but still...
You've also got water bills around £30-40 a month to add on top don't forget. The service charges do of course have things such as building insurance, lifts, maintenance, gardener, porter etc but still...
As well as insurance etc also don't underestimate how much ad-hoc servicing and maintenance can cost that you don't need to worry about at all at the moment, especially if you're not DIY savvy so need to get trades in to fix everything. Things like roof leaks from damaged tiles/lead flashing, blocked gutters/drains, boiler/heating issues, electrical problems, wind damage to garden fences, plumbing problems etc all add up. They won't all occur every year by any means but you can bet that most will happen at some point in the first few years of ownership.
All depends on the house construction, modern house probably not very much. Old house probably massive. Even then ceiling heights, amount of glass, how much sun it gets and where in the country it is located.
From my past, 1980s semi-detached house about 1800sqft in London, barely had to put the heating on, bills negligible. 1900s house in Cumbria, about 2500sqft. Constantly freezing even with the heating going bonkers with bills to match.
More info needed basically.
From my past, 1980s semi-detached house about 1800sqft in London, barely had to put the heating on, bills negligible. 1900s house in Cumbria, about 2500sqft. Constantly freezing even with the heating going bonkers with bills to match.
More info needed basically.
I'm looking for generic info and what's been provided has been extremely helpful.
In summary I live in a flat and need more space.
So question is, do I buy next door flat and stay put or do I keep looking for detached or semi detached properties.
I have no experience of bills outside flat context so estimating 1930s to 1980s houses with double glazing or something along those lines has covered my main question.
In summary I live in a flat and need more space.
So question is, do I buy next door flat and stay put or do I keep looking for detached or semi detached properties.
I have no experience of bills outside flat context so estimating 1930s to 1980s houses with double glazing or something along those lines has covered my main question.
I dunno how you guys have bills so low.
We’re looking at 42,0000kw gas for 2022.
This is after a new boiler and double glazing.
It an old house, so no cavity walls. But even so!
Have just had 2 wood burning stoves installed, so if I can source enough wood, we have 4 operational chimneys now. But still ouch.
We’re looking at 42,0000kw gas for 2022.
This is after a new boiler and double glazing.
It an old house, so no cavity walls. But even so!
Have just had 2 wood burning stoves installed, so if I can source enough wood, we have 4 operational chimneys now. But still ouch.
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