Council tax now payable over 11m
Discussion
A few days ago I received a revised payment schedule for my council tax, the monthlies have dropped by £27 per month, I thought this is odd, went to call them to find out why but of course it's all press 1 for this 2 for that etc without actually managing to speak to anyone so I gave up and just thought, happy days, obviously a revision of some sort in my favour, for whatever reason.
Anyway I've just dug out the original 2022/2023 bill, along with the revised one that arrived this week just gone and noticed that the total council bill is the same, its just now the bill is payable over 11 months and not 10 as has always been the case, so the monthly reduction is due to an additional payment in February, where normally the last payment is in January, leaving February and March free of any payment.
Has anyone else had something similar, does anyone know the reason, I've tried Googling it but not come up with anything, I'm just wondering whether it is due to the ever increasing cost of living so it is to give us a few quid back every month, just curious really as there is no explanation on the revised bill, I'd rather it remained as 10m.
Anyway I've just dug out the original 2022/2023 bill, along with the revised one that arrived this week just gone and noticed that the total council bill is the same, its just now the bill is payable over 11 months and not 10 as has always been the case, so the monthly reduction is due to an additional payment in February, where normally the last payment is in January, leaving February and March free of any payment.
Has anyone else had something similar, does anyone know the reason, I've tried Googling it but not come up with anything, I'm just wondering whether it is due to the ever increasing cost of living so it is to give us a few quid back every month, just curious really as there is no explanation on the revised bill, I'd rather it remained as 10m.
Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 17th July 13:39
Council tax is an illegal tax, there is no legal requirement to pay it.
This is evidenced by the facts that:
1. The demands for money are all blank (ref. Legal style manual).
2. The demands for money are all unsigned (Bills of Exchange Act 1882, Companies act 2006)
3. The Local Government Act 1888 section 79 part 2: says the council ia due to pay all liabilities
4. The demand for payment is not sent to us, but the name of our Cestui Que trust, of which we are beneficiaries, and therefore unable to pay (trust law).
It's basically fraud, and once you know it's fraud, it's actually illegal to pay it (Fraud Act 2006).
Ask them for a legal, signed bill, before you'll pay.
Thay can't do it.
Yet they have an entire police force ... for enforce it, which they never use, choosing to use criminal debt agencies, as their 'liability order' (abolished in 2003) are all fake, and unsigned (breaking the County Court Act 1984 etc).
This is one of the reasons the UK is in trouble, epic corruption on an industrial scale, that we are coerced into paying for. So 11 months, is not perhaps the detail we were looking for
This is evidenced by the facts that:
1. The demands for money are all blank (ref. Legal style manual).
2. The demands for money are all unsigned (Bills of Exchange Act 1882, Companies act 2006)
3. The Local Government Act 1888 section 79 part 2: says the council ia due to pay all liabilities
4. The demand for payment is not sent to us, but the name of our Cestui Que trust, of which we are beneficiaries, and therefore unable to pay (trust law).
It's basically fraud, and once you know it's fraud, it's actually illegal to pay it (Fraud Act 2006).
Ask them for a legal, signed bill, before you'll pay.
Thay can't do it.
Yet they have an entire police force ... for enforce it, which they never use, choosing to use criminal debt agencies, as their 'liability order' (abolished in 2003) are all fake, and unsigned (breaking the County Court Act 1984 etc).
This is one of the reasons the UK is in trouble, epic corruption on an industrial scale, that we are coerced into paying for. So 11 months, is not perhaps the detail we were looking for
Globs said:
Council tax is an illegal tax, there is no legal requirement to pay it.
This is evidenced by the facts that:
1. The demands for money are all blank (ref. Legal style manual).
2. The demands for money are all unsigned (Bills of Exchange Act 1882, Companies act 2006)
3. The Local Government Act 1888 section 79 part 2: says the council ia due to pay all liabilities
4. The demand for payment is not sent to us, but the name of our Cestui Que trust, of which we are beneficiaries, and therefore unable to pay (trust law).
It's basically fraud, and once you know it's fraud, it's actually illegal to pay it (Fraud Act 2006).
Ask them for a legal, signed bill, before you'll pay.
Thay can't do it.
Yet they have an entire police force ... for enforce it, which they never use, choosing to use criminal debt agencies, as their 'liability order' (abolished in 2003) are all fake, and unsigned (breaking the County Court Act 1984 etc).
This is one of the reasons the UK is in trouble, epic corruption on an industrial scale, that we are coerced into paying for. So 11 months, is not perhaps the detail we were looking for
So when’s your court date? I take it you don’t pay or are still living in your mum’s basement?This is evidenced by the facts that:
1. The demands for money are all blank (ref. Legal style manual).
2. The demands for money are all unsigned (Bills of Exchange Act 1882, Companies act 2006)
3. The Local Government Act 1888 section 79 part 2: says the council ia due to pay all liabilities
4. The demand for payment is not sent to us, but the name of our Cestui Que trust, of which we are beneficiaries, and therefore unable to pay (trust law).
It's basically fraud, and once you know it's fraud, it's actually illegal to pay it (Fraud Act 2006).
Ask them for a legal, signed bill, before you'll pay.
Thay can't do it.
Yet they have an entire police force ... for enforce it, which they never use, choosing to use criminal debt agencies, as their 'liability order' (abolished in 2003) are all fake, and unsigned (breaking the County Court Act 1984 etc).
This is one of the reasons the UK is in trouble, epic corruption on an industrial scale, that we are coerced into paying for. So 11 months, is not perhaps the detail we were looking for
https://www.ft.com/content/d1ef81ea-da25-11e9-8f9b...
He's partly correct. "Non-payment of council tax is not a criminal offence. But under a law, dating back to the scrapping of the poll tax, councils can apply for a “committal order”, where a debtor can be imprisoned for up to three months.
He's partly correct. "Non-payment of council tax is not a criminal offence. But under a law, dating back to the scrapping of the poll tax, councils can apply for a “committal order”, where a debtor can be imprisoned for up to three months.
valiant said:
So when’s your court date? I take it you don’t pay or are still living in your mum’s basement?
What court? There is no dispute, with a Notice of conditional acceptance, so what court could be convened?What would the charges be?
"Demanding a legal, signed bill that conforms to UK legislation?"
Their fake tribunals are not even held in a court, they rent a room. It's fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNG63lxhqM
The reality of the legal world you live in, is that you are even unaware of your own name. And sadly, I'm serious. Such is the level of legal illiteracy in this country / world.
Globs said:
What court? There is no dispute, with a Notice of conditional acceptance, so what court could be convened?
What would the charges be?
"Demanding a legal, signed bill that conforms to UK legislation?"
Their fake tribunals are not even held in a court, they rent a room. It's fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNG63lxhqM
The reality of the legal world you live in, is that you are even unaware of your own name. And sadly, I'm serious. Such is the level of legal illiteracy in this country / world.
What would the charges be?
"Demanding a legal, signed bill that conforms to UK legislation?"
Their fake tribunals are not even held in a court, they rent a room. It's fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNG63lxhqM
The reality of the legal world you live in, is that you are even unaware of your own name. And sadly, I'm serious. Such is the level of legal illiteracy in this country / world.
You are proof that a little knowledge in the hands of an idiot is a dangerous thing.
Globs said:
What court? There is no dispute, with a Notice of conditional acceptance, so what court could be convened?
What would the charges be?
"Demanding a legal, signed bill that conforms to UK legislation?"
Their fake tribunals are not even held in a court, they rent a room. It's fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNG63lxhqM
The reality of the legal world you live in, is that you are even unaware of your own name. And sadly, I'm serious. Such is the level of legal illiteracy in this country / world.
So do you pay your council tax then?What would the charges be?
"Demanding a legal, signed bill that conforms to UK legislation?"
Their fake tribunals are not even held in a court, they rent a room. It's fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNG63lxhqM
The reality of the legal world you live in, is that you are even unaware of your own name. And sadly, I'm serious. Such is the level of legal illiteracy in this country / world.
fido said:
https://www.ft.com/content/d1ef81ea-da25-11e9-8f9b...
He's partly correct. "Non-payment of council tax is not a criminal offence. But under a law, dating back to the scrapping of the poll tax, councils can apply for a “committal order”, where a debtor can be imprisoned for up to three months.
This is for refusing to pay.He's partly correct. "Non-payment of council tax is not a criminal offence. But under a law, dating back to the scrapping of the poll tax, councils can apply for a “committal order”, where a debtor can be imprisoned for up to three months.
Quite difference to an acceptance, subject to conditiions.
This is basic commercial / contract law.
When there is no dispute, there can be no criminal case, so no prison. A conditional acceptance is just that, an acceptance, 2 notices and an unrebutted Affidavit form a commercial law settlement that not court can chellenge. The council can never rebutt it.
If council tax was legal, you would end up in a real court and constables would be involved to arrest you. This never happens, because the whole demand is illegal.
Do you really think, council lawyers, are ignorant of legal style? Ignorant of the need for a signature? Would a signature, be easier, that playing about in their private tribunals?
Globs said:
Did you listen to the video?
Have you studied the revelant acts?
Of course not lol, because ignorant beliefs are always better than facts and data LOL.
Welcome to 2022
I wasn’t aware trolling was now within the rules here? Have you studied the revelant acts?
Of course not lol, because ignorant beliefs are always better than facts and data LOL.
Welcome to 2022
You wouldn’t know a fact if it fell on your head. 10 minutes on Google doesn’t make you informed. Clown.
Dingu said:
I wasn’t aware trolling was now within the rules here?
You wouldn’t know a fact if it fell on your head. 10 minutes on Google doesn’t make you informed. Clown.
The acts are not on google, but they can be found with it.You wouldn’t know a fact if it fell on your head. 10 minutes on Google doesn’t make you informed. Clown.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/51-52/41...
Globs said:
Council tax is an illegal tax, there is no legal requirement to pay it.
This is evidenced by the facts that:
1. The demands for money are all blank (ref. Legal style manual).
2. The demands for money are all unsigned (Bills of Exchange Act 1882, Companies act 2006)
3. The Local Government Act 1888 section 79 part 2: says the council ia due to pay all liabilities
4. The demand for payment is not sent to us, but the name of our Cestui Que trust, of which we are beneficiaries, and therefore unable to pay (trust law).
It's basically fraud, and once you know it's fraud, it's actually illegal to pay it (Fraud Act 2006).
Ask them for a legal, signed bill, before you'll pay.
Thay can't do it.
Yet they have an entire police force ... for enforce it, which they never use, choosing to use criminal debt agencies, as their 'liability order' (abolished in 2003) are all fake, and unsigned (breaking the County Court Act 1984 etc).
This is one of the reasons the UK is in trouble, epic corruption on an industrial scale, that we are coerced into paying for. So 11 months, is not perhaps the detail we were looking for
Classic Freeman of the Land looney bin material. Brilliant. This is evidenced by the facts that:
1. The demands for money are all blank (ref. Legal style manual).
2. The demands for money are all unsigned (Bills of Exchange Act 1882, Companies act 2006)
3. The Local Government Act 1888 section 79 part 2: says the council ia due to pay all liabilities
4. The demand for payment is not sent to us, but the name of our Cestui Que trust, of which we are beneficiaries, and therefore unable to pay (trust law).
It's basically fraud, and once you know it's fraud, it's actually illegal to pay it (Fraud Act 2006).
Ask them for a legal, signed bill, before you'll pay.
Thay can't do it.
Yet they have an entire police force ... for enforce it, which they never use, choosing to use criminal debt agencies, as their 'liability order' (abolished in 2003) are all fake, and unsigned (breaking the County Court Act 1984 etc).
This is one of the reasons the UK is in trouble, epic corruption on an industrial scale, that we are coerced into paying for. So 11 months, is not perhaps the detail we were looking for
valiant said:
Globs said:
What court? There is no dispute, with a Notice of conditional acceptance, so what court could be convened?
What would the charges be?
"Demanding a legal, signed bill that conforms to UK legislation?"
Their fake tribunals are not even held in a court, they rent a room. It's fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNG63lxhqM
The reality of the legal world you live in, is that you are even unaware of your own name. And sadly, I'm serious. Such is the level of legal illiteracy in this country / world.
So do you pay your council tax then?What would the charges be?
"Demanding a legal, signed bill that conforms to UK legislation?"
Their fake tribunals are not even held in a court, they rent a room. It's fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNG63lxhqM
The reality of the legal world you live in, is that you are even unaware of your own name. And sadly, I'm serious. Such is the level of legal illiteracy in this country / world.
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