Key safe, no code
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L500

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615 posts

258 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Bought a new house which has this attached to the wall by the back door. No code passed on by previous owner (they didn’t know it). We’d actually find it quite useful. I can’t find anything about how to reset (obviously) so any ideas? Rip it off and start again or can I get anyone to reset on proof of home ownership? Thanks.

SlimJim16v

7,270 posts

163 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Start at 0001 and take it from there.

Mighty Flex

920 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Throw a can of Red Bull at it.

scenario8

7,486 posts

199 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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(Not a wind up answer)

I visit properties professionally and come across these key safes very regularly. The number of times the code is 1966 is unreal. 1066 is another common code.

I’m not aware of there being a means to cheat the code (see hear the number of key safes that surround the entrances to old ages peoples’ developments and the like as “retired” devices get left behind) so in the absence of managing to contact the individual that set it I would waste an hour trying all the “years” of the 20th century that might have been chosen as easy to recall codes for those with failing memories, a few of the famous years of the past (1215, 1666 etc) combinations of successive numbers up and down and if none of those worked I’d just buy a new one.

Best of luck.

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Mighty Flex said:


Throw a can of Red Bull at it.
That bloke is a legend.

ewanjp

487 posts

57 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Once you have it open it's normally easy to reset. On average it's only going to take you maybe 5000 seconds to break into it... an hour and 20.

I would find a child and pay them 20 quid.

Panamax

7,587 posts

54 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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....the key point being that if it's a date it'll almost certainly start with a 1 or a 2, massively reducing the number of possible combinations.

If it's not open by 2022 I'd rip it off and chuck it away.

snotrag

15,419 posts

231 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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If you cannot get in - you'll never use it.


If you can get into it - you should never use it!

Ronstein

1,579 posts

57 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Sometimes, with these tumbler locks, if you can exert some opening load on it while moving the tumblers, you can feel when each one drops into place.

Legmaster

1,255 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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pocketspring said:
Mighty Flex said:


Throw a can of Red Bull at it.
That bloke is a legend.
This. Once you see how easy they are to open, you'll never want to use it...

silentbrown

10,239 posts

136 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Legmaster said:
This. Once you see how easy they are to open, you'll never want to use it...
Had the same problem in our new house. All of these are similar, and picked in the same way. The only difference is that with some, all the flats have to be behind, rather than at the top. So once they're lined up, rotate all four wheels at the same time until it opens.

bmwmike

8,172 posts

128 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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I'd leave it on the wall and then you can hide a spare key in all the usual places like flower pots and under rocks like everyone else, but the burglars will waste all their effort trying to get into the box.

Be ironic if they managed it though, and there was an actual key in there...


shirt

24,919 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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There was one of these for obtaining the keys for an Airbnb I stayed at. Same brand different shape. The owner gave us the wrong code and was uncontactable on arrival. Took a couple of minutes with a screwdriver to prise it open.

Geffg

1,325 posts

125 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Ronstein said:
Sometimes, with these tumbler locks, if you can exert some opening load on it while moving the tumblers, you can feel when each one drops into place.
That’s the way I’ve gotten into a few of these kind of locks. Works on quite a lot of combination locks.

Little Lofty

3,752 posts

171 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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I had one on a house I bought, it had been installed by the carers who attended the previous elderly owner. My joiner knew a local carer and rang her, hey presto we got in as they mainly use the same code.

silentbrown

10,239 posts

136 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Related, but the LockpickingLawyer on YouTube is always a fun watch.




surveyor

18,537 posts

204 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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My brother had one on a house they rented, and thought it would be useful.

They did not notice it had gone missing one day. That night some local miscreants had both cars away. They were particularly stupid miscreants and tried to use my sister-in-law's card in the local shop. They knew the muppet and that he was not called Mrs. Surveyors Sister In Law.

Both cars were recovered and the miscreant was locked up. A rare success.


Register1

2,279 posts

114 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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bookmarked

sherman

14,751 posts

235 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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For how much this type of lock costs I would just break the lock with a hamner and chisel/screwdriver and replace the box with your own one.
Once your in it should just simply be screwed to the wall.


Mr Obertshaw

2,182 posts

250 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Start at 1920 and you will be In by the time you get to 1970.