Insulate Britain were right!!!!!
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Looking at the “Have you turned on your heating yet” discussion it is becoming very apparent that Insulate Britain were very very right.
My new self build house is sat at 21-23 deg in East Yorkshire with an outside temperature of 12 deg.
No heating at all turned on.
It’s not going to be easy but it is a necessity to insulate our housing stock.
My new self build house is sat at 21-23 deg in East Yorkshire with an outside temperature of 12 deg.
No heating at all turned on.
It’s not going to be easy but it is a necessity to insulate our housing stock.
t.otolith said:
Nobody objected to their message. Rather their means.
How else were they going to gain media attention?Look at the sufferance movement. We’re they wrong?
It’s really come home to me reading posts from people where there houses are 16 deg inside due to lack of insulation when they could be sat in shorts and t shirts at 22 deg.
It seems mad to not be insulating like crazy rather than giving the money indirectly to Putin and Gulf dictatorships via high energy prices.
Don’t know why in this country we don’t embark on a rolling upgrade of houses like we do office blocks, seems anything built in the 60s is being pulled down and replaced with new steel and glass blocks
Why isn’t housing done in the same way? No more horrid ex council houses with awful layouts and no insulation or drives etc, should have been done since long ago, all those horrid terrace houses in the south wales etc valleys replaced with efficient and cheap to run places
Why isn’t housing done in the same way? No more horrid ex council houses with awful layouts and no insulation or drives etc, should have been done since long ago, all those horrid terrace houses in the south wales etc valleys replaced with efficient and cheap to run places
Nickbrapp said:
Don’t know why in this country we don’t embark on a rolling upgrade of houses like we do office blocks, seems anything built in the 60s is being pulled down and replaced with new steel and glass blocks
Why isn’t housing done in the same way? No more horrid ex council houses with awful layouts and no insulation or drives etc, should have been done since long ago, all those horrid terrace houses in the south wales etc valleys replaced with efficient and cheap to run places
Probably because you would be quite miffed when the government come along and tell you that you have to move as they are bulldozing your house!Why isn’t housing done in the same way? No more horrid ex council houses with awful layouts and no insulation or drives etc, should have been done since long ago, all those horrid terrace houses in the south wales etc valleys replaced with efficient and cheap to run places
Also, not related to what I have quoted but rather the previous post, it’s worth noting that retrospective insulation of older houses is unlikely to achieve the levels of insulation in a new build - so the comparison isn’t perfect albeit the situation could be improved a lot.
Edited by Dingu on Friday 30th September 22:06
Nickbrapp said:
Don’t know why in this country we don’t embark on a rolling upgrade of houses like we do office blocks, seems anything built in the 60s is being pulled down and replaced with new steel and glass blocks
Why isn’t housing done in the same way? No more horrid ex council houses with awful layouts and no insulation or drives etc, should have been done since long ago, all those horrid terrace houses in the south wales etc valleys replaced with efficient and cheap to run places
Install drives ?Why isn’t housing done in the same way? No more horrid ex council houses with awful layouts and no insulation or drives etc, should have been done since long ago, all those horrid terrace houses in the south wales etc valleys replaced with efficient and cheap to run places
are you mental , we could squeeze a flat onto the space a drive takes .
lrdisco said:
Dingu said:
Probably because you would be quite miffed when the government come along and tell you that you have to move as they are bulldozing your house!
Rolling upgrade. So they have a house for you to move into. lrdisco said:
Looking at the “Have you turned on your heating yet” discussion it is becoming very apparent that Insulate Britain were very very right.
My new self build house is sat at 21-23 deg in East Yorkshire with an outside temperature of 12 deg.
No heating at all turned on.
It’s not going to be easy but it is a necessity to insulate our housing stock.
It's not difficult to get high thermal performance from a bespoke new build property...My new self build house is sat at 21-23 deg in East Yorkshire with an outside temperature of 12 deg.
No heating at all turned on.
It’s not going to be easy but it is a necessity to insulate our housing stock.
Insulating the existing housing stock is a very different matter. If you thought retrofitting cavity wall insulation came with risk of cowboy jobs, wait till you see the mess of dodgy external insulation.
We have certainly not raised the bar on new build standards fast enough though, that I certainly agree with.
Evanivitch said:
It's not difficult to get high thermal performance from a bespoke new build property...
Insulating the existing housing stock is a very different matter. If you thought retrofitting cavity wall insulation came with risk of cowboy jobs, wait till you see the mess of dodgy external insulation.
We have certainly not raised the bar on new build standards fast enough though, that I certainly agree with.
If you’re on Facebook just have a look at the channels showing the snagging of estate type new builds. An absolute joke. Insulating the existing housing stock is a very different matter. If you thought retrofitting cavity wall insulation came with risk of cowboy jobs, wait till you see the mess of dodgy external insulation.
We have certainly not raised the bar on new build standards fast enough though, that I certainly agree with.
The whole NHBC system is just ridiculously rigged.
Anyway back to the subject how do we insulate our housing stock?
And yes I am sat here in shorts and a t shirt in my kitchen and it’s 23.1 deg with no heating and all internal doors open.
lrdisco said:
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It seems mad to not be insulating like crazy rather than giving the money indirectly to Putin and Gulf dictatorships via high energy prices.
I see your point and it is reasonable but EVERYONE knows about insulation and the benefits it brings, but everyone does their cost/benefit analysis and draws the line in different places. Some people would rather go on holiday each year than put cavity wall insulation in for example, that's their choice.It seems mad to not be insulating like crazy rather than giving the money indirectly to Putin and Gulf dictatorships via high energy prices.
We still have a degree of free choice in this country. I have an old house (solid thick stone walls, chimneys in each room etc). I've done some insulating but not as much as is possible because I'm happy with where I've drawn the line for the cost/benefit and don't want the hassle more significant works would bring.
I don't need Insulate Britain lecturing me or blocking motorways, nor does anyone else.
Dingu said:
lrdisco said:
Dingu said:
Probably because you would be quite miffed when the government come along and tell you that you have to move as they are bulldozing your house!
Rolling upgrade. So they have a house for you to move into. Bare in mind, if we had done this years ago, none would be renovated and have grey render and windows with soffit lights attached to another one with a Old Ford focus with no wheels in the font garden
lrdisco said:
How else were they going to gain media attention?
By the same means that other pressure groups have succeeded in changing policy where they failed- what did they achieve except to make ordinary working people’s lives harder?Still, that’s less exciting than gluing yourself to the road.
Nickbrapp said:
Dingu said:
lrdisco said:
Dingu said:
Probably because you would be quite miffed when the government come along and tell you that you have to move as they are bulldozing your house!
Rolling upgrade. So they have a house for you to move into. Bare in mind, if we had done this years ago, none would be renovated and have grey render and windows with soffit lights attached to another one with a Old Ford focus with no wheels in the font garden
MikeStroud said:
lrdisco said:
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It seems mad to not be insulating like crazy rather than giving the money indirectly to Putin and Gulf dictatorships via high energy prices.
I see your point and it is reasonable but EVERYONE knows about insulation and the benefits it brings, but everyone does their cost/benefit analysis and draws the line in different places. Some people would rather go on holiday each year than put cavity wall insulation in for example, that's their choice.It seems mad to not be insulating like crazy rather than giving the money indirectly to Putin and Gulf dictatorships via high energy prices.
We still have a degree of free choice in this country. I have an old house (solid thick stone walls, chimneys in each room etc). I've done some insulating but not as much as is possible because I'm happy with where I've drawn the line for the cost/benefit and don't want the hassle more significant works would bring.
I don't need Insulate Britain lecturing me or blocking motorways, nor does anyone else.
Nickbrapp said:
Does anyone that lives in a ex council house actually come home and go, wow, I can’t think of anywhere else I would rather live than this dark 1960s house with no were to park my car, thin roads and surface wiring?
Bare in mind, if we had done this years ago, none would be renovated and have grey render and windows with soffit lights attached to another one with a Old Ford focus with no wheels in the font garden
Council houses were often well built with decent sized gardens, insulation and energy efficiency weren't a consideration Bare in mind, if we had done this years ago, none would be renovated and have grey render and windows with soffit lights attached to another one with a Old Ford focus with no wheels in the font garden
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