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I have been in Pistonheads since 2009 319 contributions most gathering sensible response and I can say that in my days as a contractor the number of flats I have seen with radiators used as driers is beyond counting and often coins used to weigh down fan shutters too …. Now I’ve said it …pity it’s not on the correct thread . 1000 contributions what a laugh … empty vessels indeed .
DSLiverpool said:
On our local tv news the sad case of the child who died due to mould was reported as the parents lifestyle! The narrative seems to be wet items drying with no ventilation despite many warnings.
What’s the answer? Laundry room I guess.
In the housing disrepair field ('industry') mould is generally accepted as a lifestyle consequence. That's no to make a personal judgment on the tenant but it is almost always caused by the living style of the individual tenant by factors such as failing to heat the house properly and drying clothes on radiators, even blocking up ventilators as another posted has mentioned due to a misplaced conclusion that they are causing the house to be 'cold'.What’s the answer? Laundry room I guess.
Mould propogates on pure water (condensate) that's why it is invariably, with some exceptions, caused by condensation. Mould rarely thrives on walls affected by penetrating dampness as the salts, and other chemicals, brought through the wall with the moisture will not support it.
I have, as an expert witness, dealt with at least 30 housing disrepair claims for both landlord and tenant as well as having inspected many hundreds of social housing properties for condition and rehabilitation. The number of times I have seen a house of exactly the same archetype, with the same number of people living in both with one in perfect condition and the other affected by rampant black spot mould I have lost count of.
The practical problem is often exacerbated, in terms of finding a solution, by ambulance chasing law firms setting in train a claim process which will stall the 'fix' but instead prolongs matters. On a number of housing estates I have previously dealt with, such firms would often start a pop up office on the local parade and encourage folk to come forward with claims and promises of some free money (rarely realised, save for the lawyers)
Anyhoo it very much indeed is (sadly) usually a consequence of the way in which the property is used by the individual tenant. Of course low piad should be able to afford to heat their property and use the electricity but that's another question entirely.
Edited by Lotobear on Thursday 17th November 10:16
DSLiverpool said:
On our local tv news the sad case of the child who died due to mould was reported as the parents lifestyle! The narrative seems to be wet items drying with no ventilation despite many warnings.
If a had a baby and it was sick because of mould on the walls and the landlord wasn't interested, I'd scrub the mould off, disinfect and repaint. And if ventilation was the issue, improve it.Simpo Two said:
DSLiverpool said:
On our local tv news the sad case of the child who died due to mould was reported as the parents lifestyle! The narrative seems to be wet items drying with no ventilation despite many warnings.
If a had a baby and it was sick because of mould on the walls and the landlord wasn't interested, I'd scrub the mould off, disinfect and repaint. And if ventilation was the issue, improve it.Simpo Two said:
If a had a baby and it was sick because of mould on the walls and the landlord wasn't interested, I'd scrub the mould off, disinfect and repaint. And if ventilation was the issue, improve it.
Bingo, nail on head, the recent case is not the fault of anyone else but the family concerned (sadly) whether through financial constraints or lack of education or probably both.... My daughter lives in an upper flat, her downstairs neighbours had their landlord suggest her flat was leaking water onto the bathroom ceiling below due to mould damage and damp stain, the morons below never opened the bathroom windows to let out damp air, all self inflicted problems......
Alan140266 said:
Our tenant has obvs been watching the news and just yesterday spoke to the agents about mould, it wasn’t picked up at an inspection in September, she has 2 kids and lots of washing and a condenser dryer. It happened last year as well, funny thing is it all goes away in the spring.
Condenser dryer shouldn't produce mould, the water should be trapped in the tank.Zoon said:
Alan140266 said:
Our tenant has obvs been watching the news and just yesterday spoke to the agents about mould, it wasn’t picked up at an inspection in September, she has 2 kids and lots of washing and a condenser dryer. It happened last year as well, funny thing is it all goes away in the spring.
Condenser dryer shouldn't produce mould, the water should be trapped in the tank.Simpo Two said:
If a had a baby and it was sick because of mould on the walls and the landlord wasn't interested, I'd scrub the mould off, disinfect and repaint. And if ventilation was the issue, improve it.
You understand.The problem out in the wider world, is that its not understood. Nor ever will be.
As an (ex) landlord, a PIV or dehumdifiers were the solution. You cant change the behaviour.
Lotobear said:
Anyhoo it very much indeed is (sadly) usually a consequence of the way in which the property is used by the individual tenant. Of course low piad should be able to afford to heat their property and use the electricity but that's another question entirely.
Agree, if you tell an owner occupier that they just need to tweak their lifestyle, they are overjoyed.Tell a tenant and they claim they are being fobbed off by the tight landlord.
The death the child is tragic, but a photo of the mould in the bathroom also shows a towel on the radiator.
Caddyshack said:
Simpo Two said:
DSLiverpool said:
On our local tv news the sad case of the child who died due to mould was reported as the parents lifestyle! The narrative seems to be wet items drying with no ventilation despite many warnings.
If a had a baby and it was sick because of mould on the walls and the landlord wasn't interested, I'd scrub the mould off, disinfect and repaint. And if ventilation was the issue, improve it.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff