recommend a heater(s)
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I have been roped in to help look after the village hall. It is roughly 35m x 30m divided into three rooms. It gets used by scouts, various groups, slimming club etc. normally for 2-3 hours at a time. No mains gas, minimum insulation.
Can anyone recommend a heater to heat the rooms quickly, low noise level and ideally not too expensive to run?
Can anyone recommend a heater to heat the rooms quickly, low noise level and ideally not too expensive to run?
mtvessel said:
I have been roped in to help look after the village hall. It is roughly 35m x 30m divided into three rooms. It gets used by scouts, various groups, slimming club etc. normally for 2-3 hours at a time. No mains gas, minimum insulation.
Can anyone recommend a heater to heat the rooms quickly, low noise level and ideally not too expensive to run?
No, but I do have this moon-stick if you'd like? Can anyone recommend a heater to heat the rooms quickly, low noise level and ideally not too expensive to run?
Low noise = leccy.
Quickly = Lots of power. Lots. Of. Power.
Something like this per room, and you'll discover just how many digits fit on an electricity bill,
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-devil-7003-...
Not too expensive to run? Doesn't exist at the moment. Something like a tubular heater will stop the place freezing, but that's about it,
https://www.alertelectrical.com/heating/electric-h...
Who's asking for more heating? The Yoga Class that insist on it being 25c so they don't have to wear a jumper, while hiring the room for £4 a week?
I've typically seen radiant/IR heating put into these buildings, often on a timer so they aren't left on for ages. Probably with some basic (electric) tube/greenhouse heaters to keep above frost level.
I would visit a couple of local village halls to confirm how they do it.
Edited to note IR = radiant heaters.
I would visit a couple of local village halls to confirm how they do it.
Edited to note IR = radiant heaters.
Edited by biggiles on Tuesday 21st February 15:52
Assuming that one room is around 350 sqm - in round figures this needs 35kW of heat.
Without gas the only semi sensible way is with a heat pump.
Which in turn would be of the order of 9kW current draw or 3kW per phase (to give 35kW output)
You need someone who specialises in commercial property and big heat pumps.
Propane space heater. Run it off a big calor gas bottle.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-LP41-Warmer-Propan...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-LP41-Warmer-Propan...
caziques said:
Assuming that one room is around 350 sqm - in round figures this needs 35kW of heat.
Without gas the only semi sensible way is with a heat pump.
Which in turn would be of the order of 9kW current draw or 3kW per phase (to give 35kW output)
You need someone who specialises in commercial property and big heat pumps.
About £12/hr to run, couple of hours £24, perhaps more than the hire fee for the hall. But also £20k install?Without gas the only semi sensible way is with a heat pump.
Which in turn would be of the order of 9kW current draw or 3kW per phase (to give 35kW output)
You need someone who specialises in commercial property and big heat pumps.
sherman said:
Propane space heater. Run it off a big calor gas bottle.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-LP41-Warmer-Propan...
That would work, cheap, but noisy and a lot of moisture? Plus fire and CO risk.https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-LP41-Warmer-Propan...
There's really no ideal solution, hence my earlier comment, knock it down.
Huntsman said:
caziques said:
Assuming that one room is around 350 sqm - in round figures this needs 35kW of heat.
Without gas the only semi sensible way is with a heat pump.
Which in turn would be of the order of 9kW current draw or 3kW per phase (to give 35kW output)
You need someone who specialises in commercial property and big heat pumps.
About £12/hr to run, couple of hours £24, perhaps more than the hire fee for the hall. But also £20k install?Without gas the only semi sensible way is with a heat pump.
Which in turn would be of the order of 9kW current draw or 3kW per phase (to give 35kW output)
You need someone who specialises in commercial property and big heat pumps.
caziques said:
Assuming that one room is around 350 sqm - in round figures this needs 35kW of heat.
Without gas the only semi sensible way is with a heat pump.
Which in turn would be of the order of 9kW current draw or 3kW per phase (to give 35kW output)
You need someone who specialises in commercial property and big heat pumps.
Assuming the hall is like our local one it's just used for occasional hours here and there so I'd want something that is capable of quickly heating as and whrn required. Leaving a heat pump running constantly would be bordering on lunacy.Without gas the only semi sensible way is with a heat pump.
Which in turn would be of the order of 9kW current draw or 3kW per phase (to give 35kW output)
You need someone who specialises in commercial property and big heat pumps.
The statement about the choice being either gas or heat pump is also not really really true - oil is currently cheaper than gas or electric (even using an optimistic heat pump cop).
I'd speak to some commercial heating specialists - the type who would install workshop heaters and see what they say. Some sort of kerosene fired blown air system would probably be the cheapest to install and run and would have the capability of heating the room from cold in a reasonable time frame.
Our sailing club has a clubhouse.
Timber shack with lots of windows.
It uses radiant electric heaters suspended from the ceiling.
Effective and instant. Not cheap to run, but not needed for many hours.
Low capital cost.
If there's only a small group of people, we just put one heater on.
You have to face facts that heating costs money.
If you've got 10kW of radiant heaters, then Hall hire needs to cover at least £5 per hour of heating.
It's not excessive if you're splitting it between 20 people meeting for two hours.
Most people are using more energy driving down from the town.
Timber shack with lots of windows.
It uses radiant electric heaters suspended from the ceiling.
Effective and instant. Not cheap to run, but not needed for many hours.
Low capital cost.
If there's only a small group of people, we just put one heater on.
You have to face facts that heating costs money.
If you've got 10kW of radiant heaters, then Hall hire needs to cover at least £5 per hour of heating.
It's not excessive if you're splitting it between 20 people meeting for two hours.
Most people are using more energy driving down from the town.
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