Which white gloss paint for new internal doors?
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Mr_J said:
Lotobear said:
Each to their own but I really like Johnsons, it flows really well and goes on like silk.
...lovely smell too!
PS: don't even consider water based.
I'd agree with Johnstones but would chose water based. Why gloss, I always prefer satin....lovely smell too!
PS: don't even consider water based.
Water based ‘gloss’ paint is s
t… be that satin or shiny.
Oil based paint is smelly, and you have to pay more attention to application, but the finish and longevity are much better.
If you can, take the doors off and put them on trestles to paint them. Worth the effort for the finish.
t… be that satin or shiny. Oil based paint is smelly, and you have to pay more attention to application, but the finish and longevity are much better.
If you can, take the doors off and put them on trestles to paint them. Worth the effort for the finish.
Oil-based you can’t go wrong with the old faithful, Dulux Trade High Gloss; does bloody stink though. Little splash of white spirit to help it flow gives a great and easy finish.
If water-based, Bedec Aqua Advance High Gloss from Toolstation is really decent, and good value.
Not used it yet but Isomat Isolac Aqua is another water-based and supposed to be really good, but it’s £60 for a 2.5L.
If water-based, Bedec Aqua Advance High Gloss from Toolstation is really decent, and good value.
Not used it yet but Isomat Isolac Aqua is another water-based and supposed to be really good, but it’s £60 for a 2.5L.
Edited by Dr.Hellno on Thursday 28th December 01:27
Edited by Dr.Hellno on Thursday 28th December 01:28
Lotobear said:
Each to their own but I really like Johnsons, it flows really well and goes on like silk.
...lovely smell too!
PS: don't even consider water based.
Oil based paints total waste of time as with low voc they all yellow badly used indoors....lovely smell too!
PS: don't even consider water based.
Nobody using gloss any more.Eggshell or satin.
Dulux diamond water based satin or eggshell.
As has been posted, paint flat on a trestle.
Lotobear said:
Each to their own but I really like Johnsons, it flows really well and goes on like silk.
...lovely smell too!
PS: don't even consider water based.
This, 100%...lovely smell too!
PS: don't even consider water based.
I have a friend who is a painter, he always uses a sheepskin roller for flat doors, takes the doors off, lays them flat, removes the handles, does the sanding prep and then paints with the roller, for gloss paint he says he can get a mirror finish. He says a better finish and quicker.
Agree on Johnsons, I once made the mistake of buying a well known diy store own label paint, took me seven coats to have an acceptable finish.
If you decide on brushes, buy a professional brush such as Hamilton, the difference is huge.
We did our skirting upstairs with water based satin wood after reading many comments saying the modern water based stuff is as good as anything oil based.
A year later and I am planning to go over it again with oil based stuff as it doesn't look anywhere near as good.
Lesson learned. Water based satin/gloss is awful. Use oil based
A year later and I am planning to go over it again with oil based stuff as it doesn't look anywhere near as good.
Lesson learned. Water based satin/gloss is awful. Use oil based
I switched from using oil based gloss to water based some years ago and am so pleased I did. I use Johnstones Aqua. Using water based gloss is all about technique (apply, lay off and leave) and using the correct brush - high quality synthetic.
No more waiting hours and hours for it to dry like you do with oil based and the clean up is a doddle.
No more waiting hours and hours for it to dry like you do with oil based and the clean up is a doddle.
Interesting how divided this is water or oil .
I tried water based last summer for outside painting . A Zinzer product, specifically billed as exterior, hard wearing and , with their own undercoat, a one coat application. It's easier to paint and clean than oil.
It appears to be wearing very badly indeed, I was looking just yesterday quite disappointed.
I tried water based last summer for outside painting . A Zinzer product, specifically billed as exterior, hard wearing and , with their own undercoat, a one coat application. It's easier to paint and clean than oil.
It appears to be wearing very badly indeed, I was looking just yesterday quite disappointed.
Water based paint is easier to apply, dries quicker (though still needs 24hrs between coats), doesn’t smell, it’s much easier to get your gear clean and it’s easier to clean off if you happen to get it somewhere unintended.
But you won’t get that deep, glass like finish you get with properly applied oil based paint, and it more prone to chipping and scuffing.
But you won’t get that deep, glass like finish you get with properly applied oil based paint, and it more prone to chipping and scuffing.
cliffords said:
Interesting how divided this is water or oil .
I tried water based last summer for outside painting . A Zinzer product, specifically billed as exterior, hard wearing and , with their own undercoat, a one coat application. It's easier to paint and clean than oil.
It appears to be wearing very badly indeed, I was looking just yesterday quite disappointed.
Zinnser All Coat?I tried water based last summer for outside painting . A Zinzer product, specifically billed as exterior, hard wearing and , with their own undercoat, a one coat application. It's easier to paint and clean than oil.
It appears to be wearing very badly indeed, I was looking just yesterday quite disappointed.
I used it on a wood gate that had been stained. A really light sand and two coats. Still looks great 18 months later.
We also used it to paint some horrid cheap glossy kitchen cabinets. 2 years on and it's held up really well but has chipped in a couple of places. Everyone that sees it comments on our new kitchen, it was a proper temporary glow up that was only meant to last 6 months.
I'm planning on using it for our wood windows in the Spring.
Thing is, the Johnstone’s water-based(and others) are actually a hybrid with a fair amount of oil in it, so it’ll yellow over time as well.
IMO a proper oil-based white gloss on woodwork and white matt walls can look really good, and won’t yellow too quickly with regular day light on it.
IMO a proper oil-based white gloss on woodwork and white matt walls can look really good, and won’t yellow too quickly with regular day light on it.
Dr.Hellno said:
Thing is, the Johnstone’s water-based(and others) are actually a hybrid with a fair amount of oil in it, so it’ll yellow over time as well.
IMO a proper oil-based white gloss on woodwork and white matt walls can look really good, and won’t yellow too quickly with regular day light on it.
Jeepers, decorating advice from 20 years ago recommending matt white walls and oil based gloss, why not add in magnolia as a softer alternative?IMO a proper oil-based white gloss on woodwork and white matt walls can look really good, and won’t yellow too quickly with regular day light on it.
Oil based really old hat, not being used much any more as they yellow, the worst possible combination is oil based gloss with white walls - within 5 years all the woodwork will look so yellow versus the walls that it will look like a chain smokers been in residence.
Yes, am surprised on the division between water and oil based paints. For internal my vote goes to water based. Actually Mrs Southerndriver does all the painting (I do the prep) and gets on fine with standard Dulux wood paint.
Not mentioned already, but really important for longevity is covering any knots which will leach out dark colours into the paint. More relevant to the frame and skirting than the door itself. Standard old fashioned knotting hasn’t done as good a job as I hoped. These days we use a spray based knot covering primer. Will be interested to hear recommendations from others.
Not mentioned already, but really important for longevity is covering any knots which will leach out dark colours into the paint. More relevant to the frame and skirting than the door itself. Standard old fashioned knotting hasn’t done as good a job as I hoped. These days we use a spray based knot covering primer. Will be interested to hear recommendations from others.
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