Day rate for joiner North East England
Discussion
Leeds here. £250 - £280 a day seems to be the going rate for joiners. Across the family we’re having three houses worked on by a chap my in laws have known for years and he’s doing that at a discount of £240 a day. His usual rate is £275 and he’s always turning down work.
Seems most trades are a minimum of £200 per day these days.
Seems most trades are a minimum of £200 per day these days.
R6tty said:
This keeps comng up here. Joiners make things. Carpenters fit things. Joiners do not work 'on site'.
And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
In the North-east they are joiners. Site joiners, bench joiners.. you won’t see a job advertised for a Carpenter. And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
mickk said:
Crumpet said:
The joiner is used to use (Yorkshire) now wants £500 a day, up from £250 a few years back.
Good excuse for me to buy a new compound mitre saw!
He's not busy then.Good excuse for me to buy a new compound mitre saw!
neth27 said:
R6tty said:
This keeps comng up here. Joiners make things. Carpenters fit things. Joiners do not work 'on site'.
And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
In the North-east they are joiners. Site joiners, bench joiners.. you won’t see a job advertised for a Carpenter. And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
My grandfather was a signal fitter and joiner for LNER (the original one!) in the day - he did make a piece of bespoke furniture using different woods so that to me is carpentry.
We built our own contemporary SIPS house around 8 years ago (I designed it and specced everything including finishes but employed an architect to get through planning, but the design was solely mine).
We had a main contractor but we had to stop the build when our house sale fell through.
The builder indicated costs would be around 3-12% higher than his origInal quote when work recommenced.
Nine months later after selling our property, the quote came back - 100% higher!
Needless to say we told him where to go so we managed the build (that was wind & watertight) ourselves.
I did all of the second fix joinery myself - all hardwood doors, skirtings, door frames & window sills.
I absolutely loved doing it and without blowing my own trumpet did a great job.
I’ve always enjoyed working with wood but having the correct tools makes such a difference.
Last year I completed a media wall including boarding out with only the electrics and plastering outsourced.
I’ve since been asked to do a few joinery jobs for family and friends and have recently done some internal bi-fold oak doors (must admit they are a pain in the arse) and am just about to fit some shelving in a couple of storage cupboards for someone else.
Hence my question - my £100 per day sounds awfully cheap after reading the comments but I suppose you can class them as the dreaded “mates rates”.
I’m partially retired (not a trained joiner) so quite happy doing the odd job.
Boxster5 said:
neth27 said:
R6tty said:
This keeps comng up here. Joiners make things. Carpenters fit things. Joiners do not work 'on site'.
And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
In the North-east they are joiners. Site joiners, bench joiners.. you won’t see a job advertised for a Carpenter. And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
My grandfather was a signal fitter and joiner for LNER (the original one!) in the day - he did make a piece of bespoke furniture using different woods so that to me is carpentry.
We built our own contemporary SIPS house around 8 years ago (I designed it and specced everything including finishes but employed an architect to get through planning, but the design was solely mine).
We had a main contractor but we had to stop the build when our house sale fell through.
The builder indicated costs would be around 3-12% higher than his origInal quote when work recommenced.
Nine months later after selling our property, the quote came back - 100% higher!
Needless to say we told him where to go so we managed the build (that was wind & watertight) ourselves.
I did all of the second fix joinery myself - all hardwood doors, skirtings, door frames & window sills.
I absolutely loved doing it and without blowing my own trumpet did a great job.
I’ve always enjoyed working with wood but having the correct tools makes such a difference.
Last year I completed a media wall including boarding out with only the electrics and plastering outsourced.
I’ve since been asked to do a few joinery jobs for family and friends and have recently done some internal bi-fold oak doors (must admit they are a pain in the arse) and am just about to fit some shelving in a couple of storage cupboards for someone else.
Hence my question - my £100 per day sounds awfully cheap after reading the comments but I suppose you can class them as the dreaded “mates rates”.
I’m partially retired (not a trained joiner) so quite happy doing the odd job.
If your not planning on declaring it and looking to work more 9-3 then £100 isn’t too bad if they cover consumables as well.
J6542 said:
Boxster5 said:
neth27 said:
R6tty said:
This keeps comng up here. Joiners make things. Carpenters fit things. Joiners do not work 'on site'.
And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
In the North-east they are joiners. Site joiners, bench joiners.. you won’t see a job advertised for a Carpenter. And in the East of England, going rate here is about £25 an hour. Price work carpenters have peaked at £600,but not sustainable.
My grandfather was a signal fitter and joiner for LNER (the original one!) in the day - he did make a piece of bespoke furniture using different woods so that to me is carpentry.
We built our own contemporary SIPS house around 8 years ago (I designed it and specced everything including finishes but employed an architect to get through planning, but the design was solely mine).
We had a main contractor but we had to stop the build when our house sale fell through.
The builder indicated costs would be around 3-12% higher than his origInal quote when work recommenced.
Nine months later after selling our property, the quote came back - 100% higher!
Needless to say we told him where to go so we managed the build (that was wind & watertight) ourselves.
I did all of the second fix joinery myself - all hardwood doors, skirtings, door frames & window sills.
I absolutely loved doing it and without blowing my own trumpet did a great job.
I’ve always enjoyed working with wood but having the correct tools makes such a difference.
Last year I completed a media wall including boarding out with only the electrics and plastering outsourced.
I’ve since been asked to do a few joinery jobs for family and friends and have recently done some internal bi-fold oak doors (must admit they are a pain in the arse) and am just about to fit some shelving in a couple of storage cupboards for someone else.
Hence my question - my £100 per day sounds awfully cheap after reading the comments but I suppose you can class them as the dreaded “mates rates”.
I’m partially retired (not a trained joiner) so quite happy doing the odd job.
If your not planning on declaring it and looking to work more 9-3 then £100 isn’t too bad if they cover consumables as well.
mickk said:
Crumpet said:
The joiner is used to use (Yorkshire) now wants £500 a day, up from £250 a few years back.
Good excuse for me to buy a new compound mitre saw!
He's not busy then.Good excuse for me to buy a new compound mitre saw!
It’s mad!
Interesting. In the South (East) I had a joiners shop where my joiners made windows, doors, kitchens, stairs etc. Bench joiners assembled stuff. Site carpenters fitted what we made. I've been doing it for 40 years and I can assure you that is how it is in here. Round here, and all of the South East, if you advertise for a joiner you'll get a bod in a workshop. Carpenters work on site. Prepared to accept it's different in The North, but I'm very surprised. Google 'Site Carpenters Wanted'.
I’ve always classed myself as a joiner, not a carpenter. I worked in a joinery shop for years making windows, doors etc (bench joiner) I would then to go out on site and fit what I had made (joiner). I know loads of joiners but no carpenters, even though they do a variety of work, must be a a northern thing. The only time I class myself as a carpenter /joiner is on car insurance occupation.
Edited by Little Lofty on Sunday 7th April 11:08
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