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tuffer

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282 months

Tuesday 20th August 2024
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Thought I would start a thread on my veggie garden build, been busy on the house for the last couple of years and this is pretty much the final big project:
Area in question is top right in this pic and is the site of former farm house which sat alongside the house.





Some sort of plan.



































PS, uploading images on this platform has not improved in 24 years.

ATG

22,092 posts

287 months

Tuesday 20th August 2024
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That looks excellent. Roughly where are you in the country and at what altitude? Hillsides behind you look like fairly blowy upland pasture.

Edited to add, well, really that looks like a hill farm in mid Wales. 50p says somewhere in Powys

Edited by ATG on Tuesday 20th August 17:55

guyvert1

2,086 posts

257 months

Tuesday 20th August 2024
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Blimey, that looks superb, bookmarked :-)

skeeterm5

4,248 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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I thought I was in for a couple of raised beds made out of old sleepers!

That is impressive stuff.

Mabbs9

1,397 posts

233 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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That certainly looked like a very busy weekend!

jfdi

1,200 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Garden? That's stretching the definition a little!
Amazing work, greenhouse is stunning.

tuffer

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8,901 posts

282 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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ATG said:
That looks excellent. Roughly where are you in the country and at what altitude? Hillsides behind you look like fairly blowy upland pasture.

Edited to add, well, really that looks like a hill farm in mid Wales. 50p says somewhere in Powys

Edited by ATG on Tuesday 20th August 17:55
Correct, probably not a million miles from you.

akirk

5,775 posts

129 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Are you putting a wall around it all - or how are you keeping out the wildlife?
Even where we are in Bristol - technically urban - we get whole families of badgers wandering through ours (and killing the plants!) - trouble is the cubs are too cute!

tuffer

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282 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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akirk said:
Are you putting a wall around it all - or how are you keeping out the wildlife?
Even where we are in Bristol - technically urban - we get whole families of badgers wandering through ours (and killing the plants!) - trouble is the cubs are too cute!
A hedge and a fence in parts. The whole area is fenced off but we do get the occasional Deer wandering about.

AndrewT1275

806 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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tuffer said:
Thought I would start a thread on my veggie garden build, been busy on the house for the last couple of years and this is pretty much the final big project:
Area in question is top right in this pic and is the site of former farm house which sat alongside the house.
Cars parked on front garden : council.

AndrewT1275

806 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Seriously though, that is awesome. Brick base and black frame for the greenhouse looks great. Wish I had the space for something like that.

dundarach

5,676 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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The greenhouse will be beautiful, I'd spend all day pottering!

Excellent work, please keep us updated.

akirk

5,775 posts

129 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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tuffer said:
akirk said:
Are you putting a wall around it all - or how are you keeping out the wildlife?
Even where we are in Bristol - technically urban - we get whole families of badgers wandering through ours (and killing the plants!) - trouble is the cubs are too cute!
A hedge and a fence in parts. The whole area is fenced off but we do get the occasional Deer wandering about.
maybe something to keep an eye on - they will get through a lot of hedges / over fences unless high - and can strip a kitchen garden...
on the other hand, venison is very nice!

Chrisgr31

14,039 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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AndrewT1275 said:
Seriously though, that is awesome. Brick base and black frame for the greenhouse looks great. Wish I had the space for something like that.
Don’t we all!

tuffer

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Wednesday 21st August 2024
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akirk said:
maybe something to keep an eye on - they will get through a lot of hedges / over fences unless high - and can strip a kitchen garden...
on the other hand, venison is very nice!
They are very shy around here and I have only seen a couple in 4 years, they have plenty of woods and open moorland to roam on.

hidetheelephants

30,159 posts

208 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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tuffer said:
akirk said:
maybe something to keep an eye on - they will get through a lot of hedges / over fences unless high - and can strip a kitchen garden...
on the other hand, venison is very nice!
They are very shy around here and I have only seen a couple in 4 years, they have plenty of woods and open moorland to roam on.
They'll stop being all shy as soon as there's something tasty to scoff in your garden; greedy bds will strip new shoots if you don't fence them out.

ATG

22,092 posts

287 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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A thought on green houses, raised beds and watering. If you don't want to be reliant on watering everything by hand you can of course run drip hoses everywhere, install time switches, try to calibrate the thing, etc, and there's quite a lot to be said for that sort of arrangement, but ... another trick is to put a pond liner in the bottom of a bed, fill it with maybe 20cm of gravel, cover that with a permeable membrane and then put soil on top. You use an overflow pipe to control the depth of the water in the gravel bed and route rain water from a roof into the gravel bed. This keeps the soil permanently moist without any intervention unless you have a really long period of drought, it encourages plants to root into the soil to find moisture, it reduces evaporation, and you're using rainwater rather than mains or treated borehole water which is generally better for the plants as well as avoiding thrashing your borehole pump and filters (or whatever system you've got).

ATG

22,092 posts

287 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Other things that will eat your plants: rabbits, squirrels, mice and voles. And birds. And insects.

tuffer

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Wednesday 21st August 2024
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ATG said:
A thought on green houses, raised beds and watering. If you don't want to be reliant on watering everything by hand you can of course run drip hoses everywhere, install time switches, try to calibrate the thing, etc, and there's quite a lot to be said for that sort of arrangement, but ... another trick is to put a pond liner in the bottom of a bed, fill it with maybe 20cm of gravel, cover that with a permeable membrane and then put soil on top. You use an overflow pipe to control the depth of the water in the gravel bed and route rain water from a roof into the gravel bed. This keeps the soil permanently moist without any intervention unless you have a really long period of drought, it encourages plants to root into the soil to find moisture, it reduces evaporation, and you're using rainwater rather than mains or treated borehole water which is generally better for the plants as well as avoiding thrashing your borehole pump and filters (or whatever system you've got).
Sounds like a good plan and we still have time to implement that, was going to install a drip system but it would be a real faff, we get plenty of rain so a gravel bed would work well. We have a stream behind the greenhouse but that the height it enters the property is not sufficient to fill a storage tank. We have our own spring fed well so using the water from that is fine (and free) but we can get short of water in the summer.

Skyedriver

20,519 posts

297 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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ATG said:
Other things that will eat your plants: rabbits, squirrels, mice and voles. And birds. And insects.
And deer. They eat faster than those you list! And more varied stuff like tree bark.