Nest Or Hive

[brian_H]

Morning everyone

Having just moved house I want a smart thermostat. We had a NEST in our last place but I wondered if the Hive is better or if there are other alternatives people have had success with?

Our NEST unit has been ok other than it never seemed very good at regulating the temperature. We have a Worcester Combi-Boiler if that is relevant and it is in an old house..Cheers

Brian

[illmonkey]

This might help: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[dmsims]

Nest is a dumb thermostat in a pretty useless frock

If you want TRV control Wiser or Evohome otherwise Hive

[brian_H]

Thanks for the replies.

We have a Worcester Greenstar CDI boiler but it seems to only have a small hand held control pad that isn't hard wired and just runs of battery power.....it's also goosed, even with new batteries it is all corrupted so can't be used to set anything.

This being the case, how can I connect any smart thermostat,? Certainly the nest one replaced the old wall mounted thermostat.

Thanks for the advice so far, most helpful

[dmsims]

Really depends what's there now - in terms of wiring

The random colour selection doesn't normally help but it can all be figured out eventually

Do you have a multimeter ?

[brian_H]

Yeah I do have a multi meter.....somewhere!

[gmaz]

brian_H said:

Thanks for the replies.

We have a Worcester Greenstar CDI boiler but it seems to only have a small hand held control pad that isn't hard wired and just runs of battery power.....it's also goosed, even with new batteries it is all corrupted so can't be used to set anything.

This being the case, how can I connect any smart thermostat,? Certainly the nest one replaced the old wall mounted thermostat.

Thanks for the advice so far, most helpful

I have Hive and it works pretty well, so I'm happy with it.

It fitted directly on to the old backplate BUT we found that the call-for-heat circuit was still using the old dial style thermostat wiring so it would not switch on when we removed it. I recommend getting a sparky to install and check it.

[the-norseman]

I had Nest in the old house, new house has Hive. Much prefer the Nest.

[curvature]

I think it really depends on what you want from these types of thermostats.

I have 2 Nests, one does the main house and the other does the opening plan kitchen area at the back of the house with underfloor heating. As mentioned above Nest and I think Hive are both fairly basic and just operate as a regular room thermostat but with almost unlimited time-slots plus the ability to operate remotely.

I'm happy with mine but if I was planning a system from scratch I would look at some that good operate more zones and possibly even rooms.

[paolow]

Had a Hive until it was bricked for being 'obsolete' - now have Tado - no complaints at all - so not a thing in your lineup - but an option? Generally on black friday / offer days the kit is quite heavily discounted too

[21TonyK]

Had a hive thermostat for a few years and about year ago replaced the TRVs with hive ones as well.

Control is good albeit the temps really need playiing with as it always seems to overshoot.

Being able to shut down certain rooms is useful but that couple be done manually.

Overall it works well and our gas use is down about 5% since the thermostat went in, no real change with the TRVs that I can see yet.

We have a conventional boiler and hot water cylinder which also has a smart switch on the immerson so can balance between the two without having the boiler on at all in the summer.

[page3]

Had Nest for years. It was ok but limited if you have uk radiators.

Now how Tado. It’s significantly better as it supports proper zone control via its excellent TRVs.

[8-P]

Bit of a thread resurrection but had a new boiler installed in the week and decided to have a Hive thermostat installed while they were at it.

Honestly, a bit underwhelming. Not sure what I was hoping for but it just did what the old setup did but via my phone. The wife was right to say it was a waste of money but I’m not telling her that.

[Lincsls1]

8-P said:

Bit of a thread resurrection but had a new boiler installed in the week and decided to have a Hive thermostat installed while they were at it.

Honestly, a bit underwhelming. Not sure what I was hoping for but it just did what the old setup did but via my phone. The wife was right to say it was a waste of money but I m not telling her that.

Genuine question, what were you wanting from it?
I have HIVE and am happy with it.

[mikeiow]

Lincsls1 said:

8-P said:

Bit of a thread resurrection but had a new boiler installed in the week and decided to have a Hive thermostat installed while they were at it.

Honestly, a bit underwhelming. Not sure what I was hoping for but it just did what the old setup did but via my phone. The wife was right to say it was a waste of money but I m not telling her that.

Genuine question, what were you wanting from it?
I have HIVE and am happy with it.

Indeed.....our Hive is underwhelmingly good!
Use it to turn things off if we go away & forget, & similarly, to warm up the house/water a few hours before we return.
What else is needed?

[un1eash]

Had Nest in the old house with the thermostat hard wired in the hall by the front door. Was never an ideal location.

New build now has 2 heating zones upstairs and down and again the thermostat downstairs is in the hallway right next to the front door.

We wanted a smart meter with wireless thermostats so went with Drayton Wiser for ease of use, installation and cost. The 3 channel kit was only £140 and took half an hour to install as I left the old thermostats in place.

We have the option to add radiator PRV's at a later date but so far it's working much better.

[8-P]

I think the hive plus features are what I was expecting to be included, but I’ll need to pay for that.

[dickymint]

TADO!

[MercmanSL]

8-P said:

Bit of a thread resurrection but had a new boiler installed in the week and decided to have a Hive thermostat installed while they were at it.

Honestly, a bit underwhelming. Not sure what I was hoping for but it just did what the old setup did but via my phone. The wife was right to say it was a waste of money but I m not telling her that.

We have been using Drayton Wiser for a few years. It works very well in on/off mode as it learns how the home warms and cools and then adjusts the boiler firing to suit. The single zone version supports OpenTherm and all version support smart TRV’s it that is what you want (not necessarily a good idea though). If you but the 2nd generation Wiser you will get support for a number of other smart devices all in one system. Wiser does not depend on either the internet or home WiFi to operate.

[dickymint]

MercmanSL said:

8-P said:

Bit of a thread resurrection but had a new boiler installed in the week and decided to have a Hive thermostat installed while they were at it.

Honestly, a bit underwhelming. Not sure what I was hoping for but it just did what the old setup did but via my phone. The wife was right to say it was a waste of money but I m not telling her that.

We have been using Drayton Wiser for a few years. It works very well in on/off mode as it learns how the home warms and cools and then adjusts the boiler firing to suit. The single zone version supports OpenTherm and all version support smart TRV s it that is what you want (not necessarily a good idea though). If you but the 2nd generation Wiser you will get support for a number of other smart devices all in one system. Wiser does not depend on either the internet or home WiFi to operate.

Tado will still work if the internet goes down