Matching lightbulb brightness - Help!
Matching lightbulb brightness - Help!
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Danm1les

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945 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Having recently moved house, the new kitchen has spotlights, under counter lights and then a pendant light over the island. The spotlights and under counter lights match near enough spot on, the island light is very yellow in colour and very dim.

Assuming it is all bulb based, not the fitting, what is the best way to match the bulb? It is an E27 bulb. Its such a different colour, I don't even turn the island light on, and it has a glow like its keeping chicken eggs warm,

C4ME

1,586 posts

227 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Bulbs have a rating on how yellow/white/blue the light is


Danm1les

Original Poster:

945 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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C4ME said:
Bulbs have a rating on how yellow/white/blue the light is

Ah perfect! The current bulb is very similar to the far left example. I need something in the middle.

Thank you.

119

12,987 posts

52 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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C4ME said:
Bulbs have a rating on how yellow/white/blue the light is

And all the manufacturers will implement those values differently.

SEDon

250 posts

79 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Get a smart bulb and tweak it as desired

Liamjrhodes

315 posts

157 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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If you remove the bulbs you want to match to they will have their colour temperature and brightness printed on them. Try and match these to ensure similar appearance.

As said though there is often slight variation between bulb manufacturer and even bulb type.

JimM169

707 posts

138 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Generally you only really get a choice of either warm white (yellow tint) or cool white (more a white white)


Danm1les

Original Poster:

945 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Thanks all. I have ordered 2 from Amazon, one that matches the colour as per the image above, and a smart bulb. One or both can go back if not good smile

Simpo Two

89,401 posts

281 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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If it's LED, even when set to 'warm' to emulate tungsten I find they still have a weird colour cast. I don't like LEDs for quality of light; what they do best is be very bright for very little power.

Sheepshanks

37,633 posts

135 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Daughter bought some new wall and ceiling light fittings for her living room and just picked up suitable size LED lamps that were with the fittings. So she ended up with wall light at 2700K and the centre light is 4000K.

The numbers don't really do justice to the difference. As evening background lighting the wall lights are fine - in comparison the light from the centre fitting is just blue!

We have 3000K downlighter LEDs in the kitchen area of our kitchen / diner and they're fine. Everything around them is Philips Hue so can be set to look the same, or softer when we don't want the kitchen to be so noticeable.

JimM169

707 posts

138 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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We've got a mix of bulbs in our kitchen, I prefer the ambience of the warm white ones but have to seek out a cool white bulb when I'm trying to read the cooking instructions on packets! They're both supposed to give out the same amount of lumens but the cool white definitely appear brighter to me



Edited by JimM169 on Thursday 21st November 15:13

Trustmeimadoctor

14,177 posts

171 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Sheepshanks said:
Daughter bought some new wall and ceiling light fittings for her living room and just picked up suitable size LED lamps that were with the fittings. So she ended up with wall light at 2700K and the centre light is 4000K.

The numbers don't really do justice to the difference. As evening background lighting the wall lights are fine - in comparison the light from the centre fitting is just blue!

We have 3000K downlighter LEDs in the kitchen area of our kitchen / diner and they're fine. Everything around them is Philips Hue so can be set to look the same, or softer when we don't want the kitchen to be so noticeable.
i find it weird walking around at this time of year how many people have really cool temperature bulbs in living rooms and bedrooms etc they look so cold and uninviting like a dentists office

cool bulbs for sure in kitchen and bathrooms where you really want that but in the kitchen as above i have a mix cool spot lights and warm pendant over the table never are they all on at the same time

MajorMantra

1,585 posts

128 months

Thursday 21st November 2024
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
i find it weird walking around at this time of year how many people have really cool temperature bulbs in living rooms and bedrooms etc they look so cold and uninviting like a dentists office
Likewise! I got a takeaway from an Italian restaurant recently and their dining room had ~4000k bulbs. It was so cold and uninviting that I'd never want to sit in.

Personally I like 2700k for most kitchen and living room purposes. Maybe 3000k for a bathroom, but no cooler. I have 4000k in my garage where it makes sense (although it feels pretty stark if I'm working in their at night).

rodericb

8,078 posts

142 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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I run Phillips LED 3000k 19w 2150lm in my kitchen island pendants. They're about the brightest LED you can get. Good for task lighting without looking like an operating theatre.

Sheepshanks

37,633 posts

135 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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rodericb said:
I run Phillips LED 3000k 19w 2150lm in my kitchen island pendants. They're about the brightest LED you can get. Good for task lighting without looking like an operating theatre.
Blimey - do people sit at the island? We have 4W 470lm in our pendants (x3). For working it's lit by downlights

Mr Whippy

31,373 posts

257 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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Philips do an LED with a good CRI (the output intensity vs wavelength curve is incandescent looking) and its colour varies with brightness to mimick incandescent.

Obv work with dimmers too.

I think mine was about £14.

wyson

3,692 posts

120 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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LED bulbs dim and yellow over time.

Just replace the lot if it bothers you.

It’s probably because you moved into a new place, you are really vigilant and aware. It probably won’t bother you after a while.

My place has dim / bright, white / yellow LED bulbs all of the same spec depending on their age. Honestly don’t notice it over time.

paralla

4,736 posts

151 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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wyson said:
LED bulbs dim and yellow over time.

Just replace the lot if it bothers you.

It’s probably because you moved into a new place, you are really vigilant and aware. It probably won’t bother you after a while.

My place has dim / bright, white / yellow LED bulbs all of the same spec depending on their age. Honestly don’t notice it over time.
99% of LED bulbs don’t even mention the CRI but a high CRI it’s key to a harmonious lighting design.

I have nothing but Orluna in my house and it honestly feels like a high end hotel or bar because of the lighting.

https://www.orluna.com/why-orluna


Danm1les

Original Poster:

945 posts

156 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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The £9 smart bulb from Amazon matched perfectly.

MajorMantra

1,585 posts

128 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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paralla said:
99% of LED bulbs don’t even mention the CRI but a high CRI it’s key to a harmonious lighting design.

I have nothing but Orluna in my house and it honestly feels like a high end hotel or bar because of the lighting.

https://www.orluna.com/why-orluna
Every day a school day, I had no idea there was a metric for this. I'm assuming those aren't cheap...