Help with my clematis
Discussion
I have 5 of the same plant from the same place, all of them in very differing states, despite all looking pretty much identical when I planted them. I fear one of them is dead or dying, 3 of them doing ok, and one of them looks fine but hasn't really grown at all. Any help welcome, my dream was for them to grow and provide loads of cover on the trellis above them, hard to believe they'll get anywhere near that right now
Alive but hardly grown:

Dying?

Three that are ok?



Alive but hardly grown:
Dying?
Three that are ok?
Water.
Feed.
And water.
Any plant that is trying to get established benefits from lots of water in the first couple of years. After the dry period we’ve had they’ll need even more water than usual. Give the ground a really good soaking every couple of days. Lots of water infrequently is better than little and often.
Feed.
And water.
Any plant that is trying to get established benefits from lots of water in the first couple of years. After the dry period we’ve had they’ll need even more water than usual. Give the ground a really good soaking every couple of days. Lots of water infrequently is better than little and often.
PhilboSE said:
Water.
Feed.
And water.
Any plant that is trying to get established benefits from lots of water in the first couple of years. After the dry period we ve had they ll need even more water than usual. Give the ground a really good soaking every couple of days. Lots of water infrequently is better than little and often.
Ok thanks, I’ll up the water game. I assumed they were getting enough water as a few of them look pretty healthy, but I’ll do more. Feed.
And water.
Any plant that is trying to get established benefits from lots of water in the first couple of years. After the dry period we ve had they ll need even more water than usual. Give the ground a really good soaking every couple of days. Lots of water infrequently is better than little and often.
You could join and seek assistance from The British Clematis Society.
http://www.britishclematis.org.uk/
I can't vouch for how active or worthwhile they might be but I knew a previous editor of their newsletter.
http://www.britishclematis.org.uk/
I can't vouch for how active or worthwhile they might be but I knew a previous editor of their newsletter.
Clematis roots don't like direct heat .. so if South facing cover the roots with stones ....It's what's underneath that matters ... if they've rooted they'll come back.
Montana is pretty rampant ... others are more delicate .... and require very gentle training .
Montana is pretty rampant ... others are more delicate .... and require very gentle training .
Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Wednesday 30th July 19:42
The Three D Mucketeer said:
Clematis roots don't like direct heat .. so if South facing cover the roots with stones ....It's what's underneath that matters ... if they've rooted they'll come back.
Montana is pretty rampant ... others are more delicate .... and require very gentle training .
Bang on….they hate direct sun on any part of the bottom few inches.Montana is pretty rampant ... others are more delicate .... and require very gentle training .
Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Wednesday 30th July 19:42
Thought I'd revisit this, as I'm still a bit baffled by what's going on.
I started with 5 plants. Two died, and the one in the middle below looks like it's on its way out as well. The other two seem to be doing ok though.....as a clueless 'gardener' I have no idea what caused the deaths or what I could have done differently? Any ideas? Can the middle one be saved?
The two that remain looking healthy seem to be doing a pretty good job of starting to cover the trellis, but not sure just two plants will provide the coverage I'm hoping for?


I started with 5 plants. Two died, and the one in the middle below looks like it's on its way out as well. The other two seem to be doing ok though.....as a clueless 'gardener' I have no idea what caused the deaths or what I could have done differently? Any ideas? Can the middle one be saved?
The two that remain looking healthy seem to be doing a pretty good job of starting to cover the trellis, but not sure just two plants will provide the coverage I'm hoping for?
UTH said:
Thought I'd revisit this, as I'm still a bit baffled by what's going on.
I started with 5 plants. Two died, and the one in the middle below looks like it's on its way out as well. The other two seem to be doing ok though.....as a clueless 'gardener' I have no idea what caused the deaths or what I could have done differently? Any ideas? Can the middle one be saved?
The two that remain looking healthy seem to be doing a pretty good job of starting to cover the trellis, but not sure just two plants will provide the coverage I'm hoping for?


I would think that planting them under a canopy isn't helping things as plants need sunlight. The ones with access to sunlight look to be the ones doing better.I started with 5 plants. Two died, and the one in the middle below looks like it's on its way out as well. The other two seem to be doing ok though.....as a clueless 'gardener' I have no idea what caused the deaths or what I could have done differently? Any ideas? Can the middle one be saved?
The two that remain looking healthy seem to be doing a pretty good job of starting to cover the trellis, but not sure just two plants will provide the coverage I'm hoping for?
spitfire-ian said:
UTH said:
Thought I'd revisit this, as I'm still a bit baffled by what's going on.
I started with 5 plants. Two died, and the one in the middle below looks like it's on its way out as well. The other two seem to be doing ok though.....as a clueless 'gardener' I have no idea what caused the deaths or what I could have done differently? Any ideas? Can the middle one be saved?
The two that remain looking healthy seem to be doing a pretty good job of starting to cover the trellis, but not sure just two plants will provide the coverage I'm hoping for?


I would think that planting them under a canopy isn't helping things as plants need sunlight. The ones with access to sunlight look to be the ones doing better.I started with 5 plants. Two died, and the one in the middle below looks like it's on its way out as well. The other two seem to be doing ok though.....as a clueless 'gardener' I have no idea what caused the deaths or what I could have done differently? Any ideas? Can the middle one be saved?
The two that remain looking healthy seem to be doing a pretty good job of starting to cover the trellis, but not sure just two plants will provide the coverage I'm hoping for?
Evergreen clematis grows a lot slower in my experience than the other variety which drops. It also is famous for taking a long time to establish, with Armandii which I think you have they say the 3rd year is the one where it goes mad.
I’ve just planted a new set of beds and gone with a mixture of what you have, and also Jasmine which has spring into life a bit quicker. But I also have a none evergreen clematis growing through it and it’s far far faster growing but obviously in winter it all dies until spring.
I’ve just planted a new set of beds and gone with a mixture of what you have, and also Jasmine which has spring into life a bit quicker. But I also have a none evergreen clematis growing through it and it’s far far faster growing but obviously in winter it all dies until spring.
More help/thoughts please!
It looks like yet another one of my clematis plants has decided to die, leaving me with ONE out of the FIVE I bought. Getting fed up with this. I assumed the last two would be fine as they've grown a lot, I even saw some flowers appear etc, but no, suddenly it went south:


Last remaining one:

It looks like yet another one of my clematis plants has decided to die, leaving me with ONE out of the FIVE I bought. Getting fed up with this. I assumed the last two would be fine as they've grown a lot, I even saw some flowers appear etc, but no, suddenly it went south:
Last remaining one:
okgo said:
You are watering it in this weather yeh?
They take 2-3 years to root properly vs the non evergreen versions so you may have got unlucky planting it in such incredibly hot and dry year.
Yeah have been watering them, but perhaps not enough then? I planted them over a year ago.....thought they were doing ok......They take 2-3 years to root properly vs the non evergreen versions so you may have got unlucky planting it in such incredibly hot and dry year.
You reckon it's just a case of not enough water? I'm not convinced the soil they're planted in is the best, although I have used feed and a new layer of compost.
Do I maybe need to just try again? I can now set up some proper automatic watering which might help......
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