Timber window into brickwork, do I need a DPM/Barrier?
Timber window into brickwork, do I need a DPM/Barrier?
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Police State

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242 months

Thursday 22nd January
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I want to replace this timber frame window with a better timber frame window. Do I need a DPM membrane between the brickwork and the frame?

The window on an enclosed balcony with a decent overhang of around a metre.

The new window will be made of Accoya and will be treated on the end grains, etc.





Or can I just more or less fit as is?

wolfracesonic

8,762 posts

149 months

Thursday 22nd January
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Just fit as is.

OutInTheShed

12,810 posts

48 months

Thursday 22nd January
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Looks to be sheltered by a big overhang above it?
But a proper job often needs a lead tray to avoid issues of the window bridging the cavity?

I've had grief from this sort of thing, to be fair, it was in an exposed location, but the devil is in the detail as they say!

Simpo Two

90,894 posts

287 months

Thursday 22nd January
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A roller blind on the outside?

Police State

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Thursday 22nd January
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Simpo Two said:
A roller blind on the outside?
Yes, Mad. I didn't put it there.

Police State

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Thursday 22nd January
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OutInTheShed said:
Looks to be sheltered by a big overhang above it?
But a proper job often needs a lead tray to avoid issues of the window bridging the cavity?

I've had grief from this sort of thing, to be fair, it was in an exposed location, but the devil is in the detail as they say!
Yes, proper big overhang. I think as Wolfie suggests, just fit as is.

Police State

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Thursday 22nd January
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wolfracesonic said:
Just fit as is.
I think I will do that. Sometimes, you just need a 2nd opinion. Thanks.

mikebradford

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167 months

Thursday 22nd January
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The answer is no

wolfracesonic

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Friday 23rd January
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It probably isn’t critical if the window is has some sort of canopy over it but try to get a deeper cill on the new window so the drip groove in it overhangs the brickwork to let water drip clear. The new window could be brought forward a touch by the looks of it, which would help.


mikebradford

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167 months

Friday 23rd January
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wolfracesonic said:
It probably isn t critical if the window is has some sort of canopy over it but try to get a deeper cill on the new window so the drip groove in it overhangs the brickwork to let water drip clear. The new window could be brought forward a touch by the looks of it, which would help.

Do not pull the window forward.
You introduce more chance of cold bridging around your reveals.
If the cills a concern ( which it shouldnt be ) ask for the window supplier to add a cill below the frame.

wolfracesonic

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Friday 23rd January
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I said a touch and as long as the vertical dpc isn’t compromised it will be fine and will have little to no bearing on any cold bridging. The existing window is quite far back in the reveal as it is.

J6542

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66 months

Friday 23rd January
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Just order the new window with a 50mm wider cill.
Order it glazed if you have someone to help you lift it in, instead of trying to glaze it yourself. Fix it with wedges and foam or fixing clips instead of frame fixing.