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Hi,
I have an electrician coming in to sort out a few minor jobs, so I thought to use him to install a new smart thermostat too (simple requirement to manage the on/off heating and hot water schedule).
My initial research points towards Tado but I have no idea if this the latest kit.
Any particular reasons I shouldn't proceed with Tado X?
https://shop.tado.com/en-gb/products/wireless-smar...
I have an electrician coming in to sort out a few minor jobs, so I thought to use him to install a new smart thermostat too (simple requirement to manage the on/off heating and hot water schedule).
My initial research points towards Tado but I have no idea if this the latest kit.
Any particular reasons I shouldn't proceed with Tado X?
https://shop.tado.com/en-gb/products/wireless-smar...
I have the older tado and happy with it.
The main issue with the older one was it only allowed one bridge and could have range issues, not sure if the X changed that. It wasn’t zigbee so signal wasn’t relayed by other devices, which seemed like a fairly odd design decision.
App needs the cloud service to make changes and subscription for all the features. There are some others that are entirely local, like the Drayton Wiser, but iirc they cost a lot more.
The main issue with the older one was it only allowed one bridge and could have range issues, not sure if the X changed that. It wasn’t zigbee so signal wasn’t relayed by other devices, which seemed like a fairly odd design decision.
App needs the cloud service to make changes and subscription for all the features. There are some others that are entirely local, like the Drayton Wiser, but iirc they cost a lot more.
We also have the older one. It’s overkill if you just want to replace a central thermostat.
Tado comes into its own when you put their thermostatic valves on every radiator in the house so each radiator can individually call for heat without affecting any other radiator. And if you have a big room with more than one radiator link those rads to a wireless temperature sensor in that room. That way the sensor controls all rads in the room.
The only downsides we’ve noticed is that they’re not silent and if you’re a light sleeper you might notice the sound. And changing the batteries can be a pain as you have to turn the head to lock into the base but sometimes that base just spins and it’s difficult to grip to stop it spinning, But I think they’ve changed this on X.
Apart from that we love it.
Tado comes into its own when you put their thermostatic valves on every radiator in the house so each radiator can individually call for heat without affecting any other radiator. And if you have a big room with more than one radiator link those rads to a wireless temperature sensor in that room. That way the sensor controls all rads in the room.
The only downsides we’ve noticed is that they’re not silent and if you’re a light sleeper you might notice the sound. And changing the batteries can be a pain as you have to turn the head to lock into the base but sometimes that base just spins and it’s difficult to grip to stop it spinning, But I think they’ve changed this on X.
Apart from that we love it.
wombleh said:
I have the older tado and happy with it.
The main issue with the older one was it only allowed one bridge and could have range issues, not sure if the X changed that. It wasn t zigbee so signal wasn t relayed by other devices, which seemed like a fairly odd design decision.
App needs the cloud service to make changes and subscription for all the features. There are some others that are entirely local, like the Drayton Wiser, but iirc they cost a lot more.
I wasn't aware there are subs on Tado until now, so I will dig a little deeper.The main issue with the older one was it only allowed one bridge and could have range issues, not sure if the X changed that. It wasn t zigbee so signal wasn t relayed by other devices, which seemed like a fairly odd design decision.
App needs the cloud service to make changes and subscription for all the features. There are some others that are entirely local, like the Drayton Wiser, but iirc they cost a lot more.
Re: Drayton, I don't mind paying for more on hardware, as long as it's fit for purpose, so I will take a look at this too.
The subs are not too pricey, something like £30/year. I believe only needed for certain features too, so can be considered optional.
I don't actually use the features, but I pay it anyway as it's not sustainable to run services forever for free and I want it to keep running as long as possible so happy to lob them a relatively small amount each year for the service.
I don't actually use the features, but I pay it anyway as it's not sustainable to run services forever for free and I want it to keep running as long as possible so happy to lob them a relatively small amount each year for the service.
Tado X is the current version. I self-installed a full Tado system last year but went for v3 (previous generation) partly due to cost, but also because the X system doesn't really offer anything I want that v3 doesn't already have. X is better if you want Threads and deeper smart-home integration.
I would disagree that it's overkill just to replace a standard CH/HW timer - if you want app control of that then it'll do the job. I installed it because my wife and I both work from home but it seemed inefficient to have the heating on for the whole house on weekdays when I spent almost all my time in my office. We have the smart thermostatic valves on all the radiators in the house, and a wired smart thermostat replacing the old rotary 'stat in the kitchen where we have wet underfloor heating. We're saving a decent amount per month compared to the same month on previous couple of years. Very happy with it and don't feel any need to upgrade to Tado X.
I would disagree that it's overkill just to replace a standard CH/HW timer - if you want app control of that then it'll do the job. I installed it because my wife and I both work from home but it seemed inefficient to have the heating on for the whole house on weekdays when I spent almost all my time in my office. We have the smart thermostatic valves on all the radiators in the house, and a wired smart thermostat replacing the old rotary 'stat in the kitchen where we have wet underfloor heating. We're saving a decent amount per month compared to the same month on previous couple of years. Very happy with it and don't feel any need to upgrade to Tado X.
wombleh said:
The subs are not too pricey, something like £30/year. I believe only needed for certain features too, so can be considered optional.
Annoyingly, in my opinion, the only useful feature requiring the subscription is the geofencing home/away assist. Otherwise I’d do without.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff