Wisteria advice
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Leftfootwonder

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86 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Hi all,

We've never had wisteria before but bought this last weekend as it looked good and healthy and was a reasonable price from a good garden centre.

The plan is to train it so it fills this wall between the patio door and a window to the right. Its already 6 foot tall, so don't need much more height, but want it to bush out. It will be in full sunshine, that wall is south facing.

I've done a fair bit of research and but none I've seen are wound round the cane like this. What would my first steps be? When I undo the ties, can I simply manipulate it, with care, to where I want, or do I need to leave it on the cane? Its currently tied at the top to the hanging basket bracket to stop it blowing over.

One last point, which may make the task impossible/pointless, I have kept it in a pot as we plan to move house within the next 5 years and want to take it with us, if possible. So I plan to prune it when appropriate, so it doesn't get too big initially.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.




Landlubber

988 posts

77 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Personally? I'd give it some trellis to climb.

LordGrover

34,135 posts

240 months

Wednesday 1st April
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I've just inherited one of these.
Father died last year and there's a whopping great big one of these against the wall in his back garden. Looks like he trained it on horizontal wires about two feet/60cm apart. It's spread quite widely and looks great in Summer.
hasn't been touched for a year or more so it'll probably get messy this year - will find out how and when to trim/prune it.

Leftfootwonder

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86 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Yes, I should add i have got some wires to space it, but given the potential for moving it in a few years, it didn't want it to get too settled. Trellis is probably a good idea as I should be able to take it off the wall fairly easily.

zbc

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179 months

Wednesday 1st April
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They're pretty tough and like a good prune so I think you would be good. Having said that they grow like a weed when planted in the ground. I'm not sure what keeping it in a pot would do to it but I might be tempted to put it in a larger pot now to give it room to grow for a few years. Put some trellis then in the pot and let it grow on that, like that when you move you could prune it down to the trellis or thereabouts and take pot and trellis to the new location. It likes to be somewhere sunny if you want to maximise flowers. Alternatively you could put it in the ground now and try propagating it by layering. I'm doing this at the moment and planning to move the cutting.

trails

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177 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Garden obelisk will be OK for a while, but will only provide adequate support whilst it's relatively small.

lufbramatt

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162 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Got one that’s now about 30 foot long along one side of my garden, bought specifically to stop the neighbours either side of me having conversations across my back garden. It did that job really well.

Hack it back quite a lot each year to keep it under control and every year it has the most amazing display of flowers late spring/ early summer. Once they get going they grow crazy fast.

zbc

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179 months

Wednesday 1st April
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This was part of mine a few years ago. Most beautiful thing in the garden

Leftfootwonder

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Wednesday 1st April
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lufbramatt said:
Got one that s now about 30 foot long along one side of my garden, bought specifically to stop the neighbours either side of me having conversations across my back garden. It did that job really well..
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Bl00dy neighbours, eh? I am growing a huge red Robin at the end of my garden to keep a nosy neighbour out of sight. hehe.

Leftfootwonder

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zbc said:
This was part of mine a few years ago. Most beautiful thing in the garden
That looks wonderful.


JoshSm

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Leftfootwonder said:
Hi all,

I've done a fair bit of research and but none I've seen are wound round the cane like this. What would my first steps be? When I undo the ties, can I simply manipulate it, with care, to where I want, or do I need to leave it on the cane? Its currently tied at the top to the hanging basket bracket to stop it blowing over.
What it did with the cane is just what they do when they have a cane in contact. They grow stupidly quickly up canes too.

You'll be able to unwind it from the cane and train it within the limits of flexibility but it'll keep the spiral permanently.

lufbramatt

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162 months

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I think the key to getting a good display is to be pretty ruthless pruning them back every year.

Bill

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283 months

Wednesday 1st April
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yes Tidy up in autumn and a hard prune in January. (Traditionally NY day...)

Bill

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Wednesday 1st April
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Thinking about it the one we have was tightly pruned to a bush when we arrived in the house and we've allowed it to spread as well. I think the upright support might need to be substantial though.


Howlin Mad Murdoch

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163 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Is it too late for a heavy prune now scratchchin

Martin_MUC

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77 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Has it flowered? I can’t make out any buds on the photo.
We bought one that looked healthy but didn‘t have any buds on it. 10 years later it still refuses to flower. I‘ve tried pruning it back to within an inch of its life and other years not touched it but no flowers.
Ended up buying a second one that already had flowers on it.
I think you are alright to remove the cane if possible although they do wrap around things pretty strongly if left for any time.
It will need some kind of support.

Bill

58,230 posts

283 months

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Ours is well in bud now. No idea if it would be harmful though.

Aluminati

2,985 posts

86 months

Wednesday 1st April
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It will outgrow a pot quite quickly.





uk66fastback

18,232 posts

299 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Read up about where and how to prune it - ours has been in for a couple of years trained to go up the fence wiith a ‘goal net’ of wires. No flowers yet though which doesn’t surprise me.

Leftfootwonder

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86 months

Thursday 2nd April
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Martin_MUC said:
Has it flowered? I can t make out any buds on the photo.
We bought one that looked healthy but didn t have any buds on it. 10 years later it still refuses to flower. I ve tried pruning it back to within an inch of its life and other years not touched it but no flowers.
Ended up buying a second one that already had flowers on it.
I think you are alright to remove the cane if possible although they do wrap around things pretty strongly if left for any time.
It will need some kind of support.
There are some small flower buds at the top so I am expecting some flowers, hopefully. They were another reason we bought it as I had heard they can take 10yrs plus to flower if not. That's so frustrating for you.

A job for the long weekend. I shall get some trellis and try not to kill it!