Portable AC units
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-Cappo-

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20,623 posts

228 months

Yesterday (17:47)
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Obviously a question which me and 27 million others are asking just now, but: these £300-ish portable aircon units, are they actually any good or just an expensive and bulky alternative to a £15 fan?


Trevor555

5,225 posts

109 months

Yesterday (17:50)
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They're better than fans, they will get the temp down in a smallish room.

But they're noisy.


-Cappo-

Original Poster:

20,623 posts

228 months

Yesterday (17:53)
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Trevor555 said:
They're better than fans, they will get the temp down in a smallish room.

But they're noisy.
Thanks, yes, hadn’t thought of the noise aspect.

kambites

70,979 posts

246 months

Yesterday (18:00)
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They work, but single pipe systems (almost all of them) are inefficient so you need a lot of power relative to the volume you're attempting to cool. And as above, they tend to be pretty loud.

Landlubber

547 posts

74 months

Yesterday (18:06)
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Don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed. My neighbours over te road have one and I can hear it from here.

Funk

27,455 posts

234 months

Yesterday (18:13)
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Trevor555 said:
They're better than fans, they will get the temp down in a smallish room.

But they're noisy.
Agreed. However last night mine knocked the bedroom temp down from 28degC to 22 meaning I could actually sleep - I don't mind the noise if it's constant, the trade-off is worth it for me. The air coming out of it was -11degC, it was great.

Make sure you vent properly - mine came with a kit to fit the sash window which stops the hot exhaust air coming back into the room and doesn't leave a gap. This is the one I have: https://www.toolstation.com/tristar-smart-air-cond...

The only feature I wish it had is a 'swing' setting, the vents on mine are static.

Edited by Funk on Tuesday 26th May 18:19

-Cappo-

Original Poster:

20,623 posts

228 months

Yesterday (18:18)
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Thanks for all of the above. Any pointers on specific models? MrsC seems dead set on having one.

Funk

27,455 posts

234 months

Yesterday (18:22)
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Seems Tesco are still selling the one I have: https://www.tesco.com/shop/en-GB/products/32657621...

OutInTheShed

13,637 posts

51 months

Yesterday (18:25)
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Landlubber said:
Don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed. My neighbours over te road have one and I can hear it from here.
They pump noise out of the window along with hot air.

The problem is, they pump air out of the room, so there is continuously warm air from outdoors drawn in to replace it.
If outdoors is a lot hotter than your target temperature, the incoming hot air knocks the efficiency.
If outdoors is hot and humid, that's worse still.

But sometimes it's better than cooling and recirculating stale air.

bunchofkeys

1,273 posts

93 months

Yesterday (18:43)
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If they are still in stock, I'd recommend Meaco unit 12000 BTU or more.
They works wonders for the kids room, brought the temp down to a cool dry 21c from 28c.
This was after an hour of run time, and the room isn't massive.
They sleep through the noise as it's constant hum, I would also recommend the use of an air circulator to move the cooler air around the room.
It won't match a purpose built Aircon split unit, but it helps in this heat.

Landlubber

547 posts

74 months

Yesterday (18:43)
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Funk said:
Trevor555 said:
They're better than fans, they will get the temp down in a smallish room.

But they're noisy.
Agreed. However last night mine knocked the bedroom temp down from 28degC to 22 meaning I could actually sleep - I don't mind the noise if it's constant, the trade-off is worth it for me. The air coming out of it was -11degC, it was great.

Make sure you vent properly - mine came with a kit to fit the sash window which stops the hot exhaust air coming back into the room and doesn't leave a gap. This is the one I have: https://www.toolstation.com/tristar-smart-air-cond...

The only feature I wish it had is a 'swing' setting, the vents on mine are static.

Edited by Funk on Tuesday 26th May 18:19
We all wish we had a 'swing' setting. But i digress.

Funk

27,455 posts

234 months

Yesterday (18:47)
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Landlubber said:
Funk said:
Trevor555 said:
They're better than fans, they will get the temp down in a smallish room.

But they're noisy.
Agreed. However last night mine knocked the bedroom temp down from 28degC to 22 meaning I could actually sleep - I don't mind the noise if it's constant, the trade-off is worth it for me. The air coming out of it was -11degC, it was great.

Make sure you vent properly - mine came with a kit to fit the sash window which stops the hot exhaust air coming back into the room and doesn't leave a gap. This is the one I have: https://www.toolstation.com/tristar-smart-air-cond...

The only feature I wish it had is a 'swing' setting, the vents on mine are static.

Edited by Funk on Tuesday 26th May 18:19
We all wish we had a 'swing' setting. But i digress.
biggrin

croyde

25,837 posts

255 months

Yesterday (18:54)
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Funk said:
Trevor555 said:
They're better than fans, they will get the temp down in a smallish room.

But they're noisy.
Agreed. However last night mine knocked the bedroom temp down from 28degC to 22 meaning I could actually sleep - I don't mind the noise if it's constant, the trade-off is worth it for me. The air coming out of it was -11degC, it was great.

Make sure you vent properly - mine came with a kit to fit the sash window which stops the hot exhaust air coming back into the room and doesn't leave a gap. This is the one I have: https://www.toolstation.com/tristar-smart-air-cond...

The only feature I wish it had is a 'swing' setting, the vents on mine are static.

Edited by Funk on Tuesday 26th May 18:19
I fitted the vent shroud last summer which involves velcro stuck to the window frame for the shroud to attach to.

Got the unit out and set up in my bedroom 3 nights ago but today I see that the heat from the sun has melted the glue and the windows are covered in a gooey mess hehe

I stick mine on an hour before I go to bed to bring the temp down then turn it off as it's bloody noisy.

Temp very quickly rises again but by then I'm asleep.

Oh, and it's about 70p an hour to run.

Philvrs

751 posts

122 months

Yesterday (19:08)
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All the linked ones look similar to the £199 version lidl were selling last week?
We have a similar unit in the workshop at work, does make a difference to a room larger than any in my house, although it is on 24/7.

onetwothreefour

140 posts

61 months

Yesterday (19:09)
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I saw a comment on YouTube that pretty much summed these up, to the effect that you get one, spend ages trying to make it work better and then get a proper split unit installed.

That said, mine (no longer available) does a decent job if you just need a particular room cooled down. As others have said, it will suck in air from somewhere else, so if that is outside air at 31 degrees, you’re probably warming up another part of the house.

I have hacked together some improvements for mine - sheet of plywood cut to the size of a window opener plus 2 inches all round, hole for the exhaust pipe cut in it, command strips to hold it in place. Feed the exhaust pipe through it with as much spare on the outside as possible - you don’t want the hot exhaust air coming back in through any gaps.

Make sure no hot air is leaking from the exhaust, and insulate the exhaust pipe with anything that works - foil pipe insulation if you like. (The exhaust pipe gets hot).

The next step is to bodge another hose to the inlet to stock the “sucking from the rest of the house” problem, but that’s on the to do list.

Funk

27,455 posts

234 months

Yesterday (19:13)
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I agree about a full mini-split system being the goal but there are a few major considerations - in some places it's simply not an option (eg. flats), it's massively more expensive than a £300 device and also, at least for now, they're really only needed a few times a year.

That being said, I'm in the process of buying a house at the moment and one of the first things on the agenda will be putting in a proper AC system as I don't think we're going to see average temps coming down and the peaks in the summer months will get higher too.

Tarby

101 posts

3 months

Yesterday (19:17)
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Noisy and the pipe needs to go out the window. That said ensure you buy at least one with 12,000 BTU else it will not do much outside of cooling a small cupboard.

Mr Pointy

13,018 posts

184 months

Yesterday (19:25)
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bunchofkeys said:
If they are still in stock, I'd recommend Meaco unit 12000 BTU or more.
You'd have to be pretty dumb to run a company that is out of stock of all products on the first hot day of the year, but they seem to have managed it.

119

17,994 posts

61 months

Yesterday (19:28)
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OutInTheShed said:
They pump noise out of the window along with hot air.

The problem is, they pump air out of the room, so there is continuously warm air from outdoors drawn in to replace it.
If outdoors is a lot hotter than your target temperature, the incoming hot air knocks the efficiency.
If outdoors is hot and humid, that's worse still.

But sometimes it's better than cooling and recirculating stale air.
Do they?

My understanding was the cold air blowing back in was just cooled air from the room and the heat that it removes gets blown out the window.

kambites

70,979 posts

246 months

Yesterday (19:32)
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119 said:
Do they?

My understanding was the cold air blowing back in was just cooled air from the room and the heat that it removes gets blown out the window.
Yes and no. The air passing over the cold side of the heat exchanger circuit doesn't leave/enter the room, but you can't blow hot air out of the window without drawing air in from somewhere.

Some units have two hoses, one to pull air in and one to vent it out, but to work properly they really need to be well separated. Most just vent hot air out and rely on the poorly sealed house to let ambient air in.