Advice on how to pursue a business without legal action?
Advice on how to pursue a business without legal action?
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3din

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15 posts

2 months

Tuesday 26th May
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A company has carried out out work on my parents property under eco 4 measures. They've installed internal wall insulation (IWI) and a central heating system with a gas boiler.

A long story short, there were certain issues from the very beginning, and there was a verbal agreement for them to supply new window boards as part of the package.

I've sent them a list of the issues that I'm not happy with along various quotes for remediation. They've balked at the cost of replacing the window boards for starters, and have offered only a fraction of the cost of replacements. All in, my list totals in excess of £8000 of remedials.

I've kicked it up to their funder, who has been mediating, but it's been around two months of back and forth and a solution doesn't seem forthcoming.

I've been trying to avoid being heavy handed and I'm willing to settle, but the company doesn't even want to come to the table to negotiate. I've told the director to give me a call but they don't reply. I'd like to avoid taking the legal route. How would you approach this matter?

hellorent

588 posts

90 months

Tuesday 26th May
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If your confident you have a good case, then LBA and see what happens

Simpo Two

92,355 posts

292 months

Tuesday 26th May
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3din said:
I've kicked it up to their funder
The contract is between your parents and the company.

3din said:
I've been trying to avoid being heavy handed and I'm willing to settle, but the company doesn't even want to come to the table to negotiate. I've told the director to give me a call but they don't reply. I'd like to avoid taking the legal route. How would you approach this matter?
You're being ignored in the hope you'll get bored and go away. So it's the legal route as said - ie small claims. It's cheap and easy.

3din

Original Poster:

15 posts

2 months

Wednesday 27th May
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hellorent said:
If your confident you have a good case, then LBA and see what happens
What's LBA? I'm not familiar with that term.

FiF

48,449 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th May
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3din said:
hellorent said:
If your confident you have a good case, then LBA and see what happens
What's LBA? I'm not familiar with that term.
Letter Before Action?

3din

Original Poster:

15 posts

2 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Simpo Two said:
The contract is between your parents and the company.

You're being ignored in the hope you'll get bored and go away. So it's the legal route as said - ie small claims. It's cheap and easy.
Although no formal contract has ever been received (along with other necessary documentation), I arranged it, so the contract would be between myself and the company.

They know I'm not going to go away. I have no problem with small claims, just that I'd like to avoid it as it's a long, drawn out process. The property can't be decorated until the problems have been dealt with. They want to get made-to-measure shutters installed but without window boards that isn't possible.

Simpo Two

92,355 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th May
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I'm not sure who the contract would be with, the person who arranged it, or the person who paid for it.

But you have to draw a line in the sand and write to them saying 'If we can't reach a mutually amicable conclusion by X date I'll have no option but to resort to law', or words to that effect.

speedyman

1,628 posts

261 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Did they pay by credit card, if so use a section 75 claim.

Little Lofty

3,866 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th May
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What work is required? £8k seems a lot for snagging if the main issue is just window boards.

Simpo Two

92,355 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th May
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speedyman said:
Did they pay by credit card, if so use a section 75 claim.
Good point. This can be a very good way of recovering money without resorting to law; I've used it a couple of times but forgot here! That said I think the OP wants the matter fixed, rather than a refund.

3din

Original Poster:

15 posts

2 months

Wednesday 27th May
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There was no money involved. Eco4 measures are free. Rather than making assumptions, I suggest you Google it if you're not familiar with the scheme.

The cost of window boards is in excess of 4k. I asked them to pay for hardwood window boards as a prerequisite for installing IWI (like for like replacement). When the company agreed to pay for them there was no discussion of cost. I have offered to cover the cost of fitting iro £1k. They have offered £1500. As mentioned, this was a verbal agreement. The company has not disputed this in written communications.

healeyfan

257 posts

217 months

Wednesday 27th May
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BBC Radio 4 programme You and Yours 12.30 today Wed about something very similar.
Poor workmanship, not finishing the installation and not working properly. Yet another Govt backed scheme that has failed.

Simpo Two

92,355 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th May
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3din said:
There was no money involved. Eco4 measures are free. Rather than making assumptions, I suggest you Google it if you're not familiar with the scheme.
Oh, it was free (well, paid for by everybody else). Excellent value then you must agree. I suggest you google for advice on how to pursue a business without legal action.

B5mike

543 posts

176 months

Wednesday 27th May
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3din said:
There was no money involved. Eco4 measures are free. Rather than making assumptions, I suggest you Google it if you're not familiar with the scheme.

The cost of window boards is in excess of 4k. I asked them to pay for hardwood window boards as a prerequisite for installing IWI (like for like replacement). When the company agreed to pay for them there was no discussion of cost. I have offered to cover the cost of fitting iro £1k. They have offered £1500. As mentioned, this was a verbal agreement. The company has not disputed this in written communications.
Clearly there was a lot of money involved. Nothing is "free". What was the price of the whole job and how can there be an £8,000 shortfall?
And why are my taxpayer £ being spent on a gas boiler installation?

3din

Original Poster:

15 posts

2 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Please stop derailing my thread. This isn't about the overall cost or taxpayers etc.

If some of you would prefer to make assumptions instead of educating yourselves, I'm not going to reply to you.

Sheepshanks

40,426 posts

146 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Do your parents get a "free" car? Asking as PistonHeads is a motoring forum.

3din

Original Poster:

15 posts

2 months

Wednesday 27th May
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No

zsdom

1,792 posts

147 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Signs up to a car forum to ask about work on a house

It’s half term people!

Little Lofty

3,866 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th May
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Unless it’s a mansion £4k is a FO price as the contractor who has quoted probably doesn't want the work. That’s probably why it’s being disputed, they are not going to pay out if they are over the top.

Countdown

48,817 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th May
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OP - is your issue related to the stuff in the link below?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/action-taken-to...