Lifting a fireplace lintel
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woodypup59

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Once the masonry above the red line has gone,.the plan is to move the lintel up to above the red line to allow the alcove to be used for a range cooker.

The lintel (one piece below the red line) must be about 400 kg.

ISTR a thread about this sort of task using some sort of jacking system. Can anyone remember ?

It might be possible to use a hoist from above which would be safer, but don't know until the fireplace & chimney above has been removed.

Edited by woodypup59 on Saturday 10th October 07:52

Magooagain

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How are you planning to support above while doing all the proposed work?
There is hire stuff around to do the job also.

Mike Legerwood

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If the lintel will be covered with plaster why not use a steel lintel instead?

dickymint

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Mike Legerwood said:
If the lintel will be covered with plaster why not use a steel lintel instead?
yes

woodypup59

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Thanks all.

The lintel will be left bare stone - its a feature in a 200 yo house.

Not sure how strong the floor above is until the masonry above is gone.

Its the hired equipment I was interested in. I though another member had done something similar a while back and posted some pictures.

LooneyTunes

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188 months

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Prop/support above (Acrow/strongboy) and then lift it with a Genie (both easy to hire).

LennyM1984

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LooneyTunes said:
Prop/support above (Acrow/strongboy) and then lift it with a Genie (both easy to hire).
This^^

We had some stone lintels replaced at our house which were bigger than that (one was 5.5m) and they used props above to support the masonry and then hacked out the old ones The house didn't fall down... Yet


Little Lofty

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181 months

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A beam lifter should handle that, I used them for loft steels. Just make sure what ever is above is well supported. They are basically a reverse engine hoist, pretty heavy but do fold and come in smaller parts that assemble on site. They do have a minimum lift height but I think it’s around 1100 so should fit under the lintel.



Edited by Little Lofty on Saturday 10th October 11:52

paulwirral

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Genie lift , hire the smallest you can for manoeuvrability. Sorry the pics not to good but I’m sure you get the idea , I lifted the beams into place and fixed them by myself , that lintel will be a doddle .

Lotobear

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I recently used the progressive lift method and 4 blokes - this was 250kg.

JoshSm

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Lotobear said:
I recently used the progressive lift method and 4 blokes - this was 250kg.
For 250kg you could progressive lift it single handed with some air bags if not moving it too high, just use something thinner to build the stack.

I'd probably lift it on a scaffold board instead of directly if using one of those hoists, stone is less forgiving than steel when it comes to point loads and you don't want to chip it.

Lotobear

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We used polystyrene packers on this - new stone so still green and easily chipped. Miraculously we got the whole kit in, jambs and lintel with zero chips

CoolHands

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How did they do it 200 years ago

danb79

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As a competitive stone lifter in my time before I got unwell; that lintel will be around 200kg, not double that - we had a few that we used to lift / train on all the time - cumbersome, but not heavy

2 grown blokes will move that easy enough; wear gloves to protect from sharp edges unless you’ve hands like leather already wink

Simpo Two

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danb79 said:
As a competitive stone lifter in my time...
PH never fails to amaze me. You post something about lifting stone and a professional stone lifter appears spin

I had my fireplace lintel raised about 10 years ago - in fact I think they fitted a new one (concrete). I wasn't watching too closely but there weren't more than three builders on the case and there wasn't any lifting equipment. I remember they packed it up/levelled it with small pieces of slate.

danb79

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Simpo Two said:
danb79 said:
As a competitive stone lifter in my time...
PH never fails to amaze me. You post something about lifting stone and a professional stone lifter appears spin

I had my fireplace lintel raised about 10 years ago - in fact I think they fitted a new one (concrete). I wasn't watching too closely but there weren't more than three builders on the case and there wasn't any lifting equipment. I remember they packed it up/levelled it with small pieces of slate.
Professional, no… Stupid, probably biggrin

One of the smaller said lintels…

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jBpRUgJrMYJwQAi86

rolleyes

Lotobear

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danb79 said:
As a competitive stone lifter in my time before I got unwell; that lintel will be around 200kg, not double that - we had a few that we used to lift / train on all the time - cumbersome, but not heavy

2 grown blokes will move that easy enough; wear gloves to protect from sharp edges unless you ve hands like leather already wink
Given the height of that lintel I would say the op is bang on weight wise. As you will know 400kg is one thing up to arms straight lift even for 4 strong men but once you get to chest height and beyond it s a different matter altogether

Simpo Two

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danb79 said:
One of the smaller said lintels

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jBpRUgJrMYJwQAi86rolleyes
WSM - the Lintel Lift!

Chumley.mouse

956 posts

67 months

I would knock a brick out in the middle at your desired height ( red line ) and hold up the brickwork above with an acro and strongboy positioned inside the chimney. Take the brickwork out above the lintel, then just lift each side up slowly placing a block of something under each side as you go.

Once its at the right height, 2 more acro under it to hold it in place while you brick up under each side.
Its a 2 man job to lift it up and maybe a wife/ girlfriend to put the blocks in as you go .

3 short acros and a strongboy wont cost much to hire if you dont know anyone with some.

rash_decision

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207 months

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I’d cut out the masonry above, then inch it up one side at a time with a trolley jack and some timber. 6 inches at a time, chock it up square and it will take you no time. beer

Edited by rash_decision on Monday 12th October 15:29