Flattening bathroom tiles back
Flattening bathroom tiles back
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Original Poster:

395 posts

60 months

Wednesday 14th October
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We have a small ancillary shower room which we have not really used before, but with a growing family two shower rooms is sort of becoming very nice to have.

This one is in all good shape and we just want to modernise slightly by adding one new shower and then applying a microcement finish over the rather dated tiles. I don't want to remove the tiles as they are in good condition. The one thing that I need to figure out, is how to flatten several of these rather naff embossed-type tiles, there are 6 of them.

My question is whether anyone here has a good idea on how to flatten them back, I was thinking some Dremel-type tool, or some very coarse paper on a random orbital?



IJWS15

2,235 posts

115 months

Wednesday 14th October
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Stone disc in a grinder, there will be lots of dust.

I have a carbide sanding tool for my multitool but I don’t think it would cope with that.

Glassman

25,053 posts

245 months

Wednesday 14th October
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Whichever method you opt for, it will be very messy. To get that flat you'll need a flat sander; anything with a disc will be okay for the bulk of it but not for getting to the flat surface you want.

Coating them with something to make them waterproof will also be necessary.

If you're thinking Dremel, why not attack the grout around them and then chisel them out? Should be easy to bed new ones in.

E-bmw

13,513 posts

182 months

Wednesday 14th October
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As others have said above only a diamond tipped grinder will touch that, especially if it is porcelain, there will be a total sh!t storm of dust the instant you touch it, personally, I would go with the suggestion above, grind the grout out and then chisel the tile out and replace with A.N Other more to your liking.

Either that or go nuclear & chisel the whole lot off & start again.

Simon_GH

1,009 posts

110 months

Wednesday 14th October
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I would just live with them. I can imagine it’ll be a load of work and mess for very little reward. Plus if the finished result looks crap then you’ll be chipping them out and replacing them anyway.


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Original Poster:

395 posts

60 months

Wednesday 14th October
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We will apply microcement over the entire tiled area, I think given you are adding two or perhaps 3 coats of this, anything not quite right would show on the first pass. So it's literally to grind 6 of these back.

Angle grinder with appropriate disc and all the protective gear then...

Thanks all for the quick replies :-)


MDT

889 posts

202 months

Wednesday 14th October
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Simon_GH said:
I would just live with them. I can imagine it ll be a load of work and mess for very little reward. Plus if the finished result looks crap then you ll be chipping them out and replacing them anyway.
totally this..... some things are much better being left as they are.

Ron Dennis famously had the dilemma of replacing a cracked floor tile at the McLaren Tec centre and had the choice of leaving the cracked tile there, or replacing it, but the replacement would match.

He opted to leave the cracked one there as it made his teeth itch less.

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Original Poster:

395 posts

60 months

Wednesday 14th October
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MDT said:
totally this..... some things are much better being left as they are.

Ron Dennis famously had the dilemma of replacing a cracked floor tile at the McLaren Tec centre and had the choice of leaving the cracked tile there, or replacing it, but the replacement would match.

He opted to leave the cracked one there as it made his teeth itch less.
The problem is the rooms around it are modern and this room looks like something from the 70s, the photo perhaps does not give that away....... also it's a WMS (Wife Management Situation).

MDT

889 posts

202 months

Wednesday 14th October
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Traffic said:
MDT said:
totally this..... some things are much better being left as they are.

Ron Dennis famously had the dilemma of replacing a cracked floor tile at the McLaren Tec centre and had the choice of leaving the cracked tile there, or replacing it, but the replacement would match.

He opted to leave the cracked one there as it made his teeth itch less.
The problem is the rooms around it are modern and this room looks like something from the 70s, the photo perhaps does not give that away....... also it's a WMS (Wife Management Situation).
WMS ah ok, I think we can but all just pass you our support during this difficult and testing time.

craigthecoupe

1,093 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th October
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If it really is just a handful of tiles, i'd be more inclined to chip them out, and build back with some bonding or similar before applying the microcement finish. The dust from that will be horrendous. if you can break them out and away from the wall it'll be a quick and easy cleanup.

v8notbrave

866 posts

43 months

Wednesday 14th October
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You'll only regret any attempt, could be opening can of dusty worms, either get good tiler to replace or live with imperfection

OutInTheShed

14,759 posts

56 months

Wednesday 14th October
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1) WTF is 'microcement'?

2) A less messy way of getting rid of those tiles would be to drill a few holes in them with a carbide tile drill, then chip them out.

You can do the drilling wet to avoid dust.
Although I might use a diamond tool in a dremeloid to make a pit to start the drill.

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Original Poster:

395 posts

60 months

Wednesday 14th October
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OutInTheShed said:
1) WTF is 'microcement'?
Numerous products like this on the market... https://www.epodex.com/se/produkt/microcement-badr...

You end up with a polished concrete/Venetian plaster-type finish, and you apply it over tiles as long as they are sound, which mine are. I've seen it in a few places now and it looks very nice in the right setting. This is a secondary shower room of about 2.5sqm so it's going a lot cheaper than getting a professional in to rebuild the room.

shtu

4,596 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th October
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Like a few others, I would chisel out the raised tiles and make the surface flush with the rest of the tiles, possibly by putting another random tile in its place.

Grinding that flush will be a huge debacle of dust everywhere.

_Rodders_

4,764 posts

49 months

Wednesday 14th October
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I'd remove those tiles too and then just fill.

It'll also tell you how well they're adhered to the wall. If half a dozen fall out then it might not be such a good idea to plaster over them.

joshcowin

7,623 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th October
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_Rodders_ said:
I'd remove those tiles too and then just fill.

It'll also tell you how well they're adhered to the wall. If half a dozen fall out then it might not be such a good idea to plaster over them.
This is the answer, I run a building firm and would just remove the old tiles, find a tile the same thickness and cut it in. Then micro cement over.

Griffith4ever

6,988 posts

65 months

Wednesday 14th October
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smash it with a hammer - fast, dust free.

remedy

2,312 posts

221 months

Wednesday 14th October
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joshcowin said:
This is the answer, I run a building firm and would just remove the old tiles, find a tile the same thickness and cut it in. Then micro cement over.
Or just fill flush with tile adhesive?

Much quicker and tidier to pull the tile out OP. A grinder on that will be horrible.

Your Dad

2,297 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th October
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MDT said:
totally this..... some things are much better being left as they are.

Ron Dennis famously had the dilemma of replacing a cracked floor tile at the McLaren Tec centre and had the choice of leaving the cracked tile there, or replacing it, but the replacement would match.

He opted to leave the cracked one there as it made his teeth itch less.
I’m sure there was something on TV once about the corridors being made wide enough so the tiles were also full size and not cut down, so every corridor had uncut tiles throughout.

Little Lofty

3,895 posts

181 months

Wednesday 14th October
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They will be soft, a hammer and old chisel will remove those as they are probably fixed with pre-mixed adhesive, fill the hole flush with the existing tiles and cover with your micro cement, a grinder will work but will be very very dusty.