Bathroom renovation costs
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Just trying to get a handle on costs for a bathroom update which will be completed by a bathroom fitter/s (yet to be found).
Rip out old bath and shower, vanity and tiles. Put the new shower enclosure in the original bath position. The bath won t be replaced. Build out studwork for alcoves in the shower walls, install low level shower tray and glass enclosure. Then replace toilet, upgrade basins and vanity units with fancy modern stuff, floor prep, electric underfloor heating install and tile floor and walls
Bathroom is a L shape with 9m2 floor area and c 20m2 of floor and wall for tiling. I ve guesstimated materials, fittings and brassware and then labour at £450 per day for 15 days. I ve assumed 1 day for wiring as well.
Based in West Yorkshire. Does this seem like a realistic budget?
Rip out old bath and shower, vanity and tiles. Put the new shower enclosure in the original bath position. The bath won t be replaced. Build out studwork for alcoves in the shower walls, install low level shower tray and glass enclosure. Then replace toilet, upgrade basins and vanity units with fancy modern stuff, floor prep, electric underfloor heating install and tile floor and walls
Bathroom is a L shape with 9m2 floor area and c 20m2 of floor and wall for tiling. I ve guesstimated materials, fittings and brassware and then labour at £450 per day for 15 days. I ve assumed 1 day for wiring as well.
| Cost | |
|---|---|
| Shower tray 1700 * 900 | £350.00 |
| Waste and pipe | £100.00 |
| Enclosure | £500.00 |
| Shower kit, head and controls | £600.00 |
| 12mm Hardwood Plywood 10m2 | £200.00 |
| Plasterboard | £100.00 |
| Hardiboard | £100.00 |
| Timber | £200.00 |
| Sinks | £300.00 |
| Taps and plugs | £250.00 |
| Loo | £250.00 |
| Bathroom furniture | £500.00 |
| Tiles and materials | £2,500.00 |
| Underfloor heating kit | £600.00 |
| Labour | £6,750.00 |
| £13,300.00 |
Based in West Yorkshire. Does this seem like a realistic budget?
That seems to be the going rate for a one stop bathroom company. I’ve just done two bathrooms for a mate for roughly £15k. I’m doing a rental at the moment, almost back to brick and don’t expect to spend more than £3k. Thats for a Merlyn shower, Bristan shower and taps, RAK loo and none branded vanity unit, so not high end but not crap. A bit like kitchens, you can spend as much or as little as you like.
OuchA very timely post as just had a bath leak (on the furthest side) down through to the floor below - and as the bath is tiled in all round in a fully tiled room I cannot see how to get a bath out and back in without retiling. So may need a full refit?So desperately hoping that your very useful calculations are way too high - I suspect not![***Edit - usual apologies for text all merging into 1 block - no idea why***]
I agree, sadly, because we were quite surprised by costs.
We're having a 2x2m en suite redone and had two quotes for around £14k each. That's using reasonably quality fittings rather than unbranded stuff from the Internet or going to the big sheds.
An acquaintance who had his done recently said prices have shot up in the last couple of years.
We're having a 2x2m en suite redone and had two quotes for around £14k each. That's using reasonably quality fittings rather than unbranded stuff from the Internet or going to the big sheds.
An acquaintance who had his done recently said prices have shot up in the last couple of years.
Yeah its a decent budget... Not sure how that translates to your breakdown vs expectations.... You've allowed alot for some stuff that will come in way cheaper and missed alot of things out so possibly be careful thinking youve saved somewhere so can overspend/upgrade elsewhere using up the budget if that makes sense. No waste removal or sundries is an obvious thing thats missing.
Had my very small bathroom done recently. My friend is a general builder and an excellent tiler. He costs me around £350 a day and works like 2 people. I suppied all the white stuff - bath (P shaped with shower), super slimline vanity with mini sink and cistern built in, toilet, fully fitted shower with bath filler, cheap floor offcut, and decent tiles (£32 a sq metre). Took 11 working days from scratch, - he stripped the old room back to the walls (was walled with some kind of plastic sheeting), sorted a stinky dergo valve, fitted insulated plasterboard , plastered the room, - plumbing, the lot.
Tiled, tested done, labour and materials £5200 inc vat, and I spent £1800 on the bath, shower, sink , loo, vanity unit etc. and around £450 on tiles So a touch under £7.5k.
He bagged all rubble and waste, and was like he'd never been there. (Just had him back to retile downstairs utility room and refit downstairs loo. And build a car port / lean to. £3200 inc vat. Plus £400 in tiles and £350 on roofing mats, oh, and £125 on timber. I supplied 6x6 oak posts (almost free to me from a mate)
Tiled, tested done, labour and materials £5200 inc vat, and I spent £1800 on the bath, shower, sink , loo, vanity unit etc. and around £450 on tiles So a touch under £7.5k.
He bagged all rubble and waste, and was like he'd never been there. (Just had him back to retile downstairs utility room and refit downstairs loo. And build a car port / lean to. £3200 inc vat. Plus £400 in tiles and £350 on roofing mats, oh, and £125 on timber. I supplied 6x6 oak posts (almost free to me from a mate)
Eddie Twadds said:
labour at £450 per day for 15 days. I ve assumed 1 day for wiring as well.
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Based in West Yorkshire. Does this seem like a realistic budget?
Always surprises me how much bathroom-related stuff get marked up. If you're looking at that sort of rate, expect someone to do a full turn-key job to a high standard - my tiler is the most expensive trade I pay, by a fair margin, and exc materials he's at £450/day for prep work (laying is per m2).<snip>
Based in West Yorkshire. Does this seem like a realistic budget?
The challenge with trying to bring the price down from turn-key is that you end up having to co-ordinate things yourself, deal with the hassle of people not turning up, and jobs (e.g. silicone) falling between the stools.
Eddie Twadds said:
Thanks for all the input. Notwithstanding a few omissions on the spreadsheet I have something 'sensible' to work from (although I would never have believed me saying almost £15k for a bathroom refurb is sensible...). Oh well.
Recently did one, turnkey jobbie from local suppliers. I started with '£10k but okay to go to £12k' in my head. It came out at £16k, but very happy with the finished result, workmanship and lack of hassle.
LooneyTunes said:
Always surprises me how much bathroom-related stuff get marked up. If you're looking at that sort of rate, expect someone to do a full turn-key job to a high standard - my tiler is the most expensive trade I pay, by a fair margin, and exc materials he's at £450/day for prep work (laying is per m2).
The challenge with trying to bring the price down from turn-key is that you end up having to co-ordinate things yourself, deal with the hassle of people not turning up, and jobs (e.g. silicone) falling between the stools.
I was trying to be realistic with rates and in my head have £300 - £450 per day for labour whether it's me managing the trades (lower end) or a turn-key managed job (higher end). I'm also happy to manage trades and materials and the hassle of no-shows and issues if it comes to it. The challenge with trying to bring the price down from turn-key is that you end up having to co-ordinate things yourself, deal with the hassle of people not turning up, and jobs (e.g. silicone) falling between the stools.
LooneyTunes said:
Always surprises me how much bathroom-related stuff get marked up. If you're looking at that sort of rate, expect someone to do a full turn-key job to a high standard - my tiler is the most expensive trade I pay, by a fair margin, and exc materials he's at £450/day for prep work (laying is per m2).
The challenge with trying to bring the price down from turn-key is that you end up having to co-ordinate things yourself, deal with the hassle of people not turning up, and jobs (e.g. silicone) falling between the stools.
Aye - mine is around £350 a day plus vat, but that includes some sundries. 100% "turnkey" - only thing I did was paint it white. It's a TINY room, that was horrible pub-loo type plastic walls, no bath, just a grotty shower. Outer wall was thin and cold. He did everything, boxing, plumbing, plastering, insulating, flooring, tiling (obvs) - the lot. I just ran round with a roller after.The challenge with trying to bring the price down from turn-key is that you end up having to co-ordinate things yourself, deal with the hassle of people not turning up, and jobs (e.g. silicone) falling between the stools.
It's a very small room in a very old cottage. The bath is normal length - photos make it look small.
Eddie Twadds said:
LooneyTunes said:
Always surprises me how much bathroom-related stuff get marked up. If you're looking at that sort of rate, expect someone to do a full turn-key job to a high standard - my tiler is the most expensive trade I pay, by a fair margin, and exc materials he's at £450/day for prep work (laying is per m2).
The challenge with trying to bring the price down from turn-key is that you end up having to co-ordinate things yourself, deal with the hassle of people not turning up, and jobs (e.g. silicone) falling between the stools.
I was trying to be realistic with rates and in my head have £300 - £450 per day for labour whether it's me managing the trades (lower end) or a turn-key managed job (higher end). I'm also happy to manage trades and materials and the hassle of no-shows and issues if it comes to it. The challenge with trying to bring the price down from turn-key is that you end up having to co-ordinate things yourself, deal with the hassle of people not turning up, and jobs (e.g. silicone) falling between the stools.
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