exterior paints (for wood and masonry)

[village idiot]

i'm about to get my exterior woodwork striped, restored and repainted (sash windows, doors etc etc).

i'm planning on using Sandtex Trade paints for the masonry (including stabilising solution and fungicide).

for the exterior woodwork, i was torn between dulux weathershield one coat gloss or going down the eggshell route via either farrow & ball (exterior oil eggshell) or sandtex eggshell x-tra (solvent borne).

any words of wisdom?

[sleep envy]

village idiot said:

any words of wisdom?

F&B paint costs double for the same paint as Dulux or Sandtex

don't waste your money

[robinhood21]

I would go the Dulux route (well I did actually). If woodwork is stripped; use the Weathershield primer-preservative, it's a blue liquid that goes on very easy. Then either use the Weathershield water-based or oil-based undercoat (I used the water based as it goes on quicker), followed by one coat of Weathershield gloss (would not use the one-coat gloss).

[shirt]

i'd go with sandtex as its 3 x 5L for £40 at b&q at the minute

[village idiot]

is dulux trade significantly better than dulux retail?

[SeeFive]

Had some dodgy render above the garage a few years ago. Stripped render and replaced it, painted it with the Dulux stuff and it still looks as good today as it did 3 years ago.

Gloss - not so sure. I used Homebase Weathercoat undercoat and gloss on the white wood of the garage fascias as a quick cover up before getting the painters in to do the awkward high stuff after a bit of saving up. I did a heavy rub down with a random orb to remove anything that looked dodgy first, and flatted everything else. That was absloutely fine 2 years on, but the painters did it again anyway.

Whatever you use on top, I hear that it will rely on the prep / primer / undercoat. I personally would not use one coat outside as I do not trust my ability to get an even coverage in one hit.

[robinhood21]

village idiot said:

is dulux trade significantly better than dulux retail?

I have noticed that Dulux Trade emulsion is a tad thicker than the ordinary Dulux emulsion purchased from the likes of B&Q. Can't speak for their oil-based though.

ETA: Though more expensive, I prefer Dulux Weathershield masonry paint to the likes of Sandtex, and have always used it on the masonry on my own house.

Edited by robinhood21 on Tuesday 5th May 16:49

[village idiot]

okay... i'm thinking the following:-

Windows, doors and exterior woodowork - Dulux Trade Weathershield system (ie. exterior preservative primer, exterior flexible undercoat and then exterior undercoat gloss)

Exterior walls - Dulux Trade Weathershield Textured masonry paint (it's an old cottage, so this should work better than a smooth paint) with the appropriate mulit-surface fungicidal wash and stabilising primer.

thoughts?

[robinhood21]

Sounds good to me! Except, I would not bother with the stabilising primer unless your existing masonry paintwork is powdery/flaking. Just spot-prime with the Weathershield, then paint away.

[village idiot]

robinhood21 said:

Sounds good to me! Except, I would not bother with the stabilising primer unless your existing masonry paintwork is powdery/flaking. Just spot-prime with the Weathershield, then paint away.

there are a few areas where the original paint has blistered from the render and also a couple of settlement cracks which will need to be addressed properly before the paint can be applied

[robinhood21]

Ah. Just scrape back the blistered paintwork, cut out the cracks, fill with exterior grade filler and, touch-up with the Weathershield then away you go.