Creosote.....?

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T40ORA

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5,177 posts

221 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Is it possible to still get this stuff? If so, where might I source it?

If not, what is the next best thing?

TIA.

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Ahh, creosote cloud9


None of this namby-pamby green water at £25 a tin! If it's environmentally friendly, it ain't gonna work - you need death, destruction and VOCs.

Goochie

5,665 posts

221 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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You cant get "propper" creosote anymore as it was banned be the EU do-good'ers. Travis Perkins do a good Creosote substitute though and it is much better value for money than the DIY stores or Ronseal etc.

eddie1980

419 posts

190 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Arr the good old black stuff, used to love the smell of this stuff.

Sadly banned by the EU cos it is apparently slightly chemically, shock! Now there trying to get the reuse of old sleepers and woods that have been treated banned... Of course cutting more trees down rather then recycling old wood is better for the environment...

Its available in America still if your really desperate, other then that as suggested your on to substitutes.

(Personally I recommend pressure soaking in red diesel, but I never said that)

Edit to add Some quotes from wikipedia I remembered from a while back just to point out how overboard we are now going.

"The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that coal tar creosote is probably carcinogenic to humans, based on adequate animal evidence and limited human evidence. It is instructive to note that the animal testing relied upon by IARC involved the continuous application of creosote to the shaved skin of rodents. After weeks of creosote application, the animals developed cancerous skin lesions and in one test, lesions of the lung."

"A 2005 mortality study of creosote workers found no evidence supporting an increased risk of cancer death as a result of exposure to creosote. Based on the findings of the largest mortality study to date of workers employed in creosote wood treating plants, there is no evidence that employment at creosote wood-treating plants or exposure to creosote-based preservatives was associated with any significant mortality increase from either site-specific cancers or non-malignant diseases. The study consisted of 2,179 employees at eleven plants in the United States where wood was treated with creosote preservatives. Some workers began work in the 1940s to 1950s. The observation period of the study covered 1979- 2001. The average length of employment was 12.5 years. One third of the study subjects was employed for over 15 years."

It is however of course FAR too deadly to ever go near your shed.

Edited by eddie1980 on Monday 11th May 17:04

mgtony

4,027 posts

192 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Ahh, creosote cloud9


None of this namby-pamby green water at £25 a tin! If it's environmentally friendly, it ain't gonna work - you need death, destruction and VOCs.
Would normally agree that anything without deadly chemicals aint gonna work, but on this I'll disagree. Please don't take a-fencehehe
The water-based fence stuff goes on a treat, no gloves needed, splashes on ya just wipe off and you can clean the brush in the kitchen sink!
Just give it a coat every couple of years.

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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You can drown by putting your head in a bucket of water. At this very moment the EU pencil-munchers are wondering how they can ban water. And buckets of course.

mgtony said:
The water-based fence stuff goes on a treat, no gloves needed, splashes on ya just wipe off and you can clean the brush in the kitchen sink! Just give it a coat every couple of years.
You're entirely right. It wears off after two years, needing another tin of green water for £25 biggrin

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 11th May 17:20

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Dont use st wood! use oak or cedar! Not sure that helps?!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

topsparks

1,202 posts

249 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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We can still get creosote but in 25L containers but can be only sold to professional users. The alternative is called creocote which is the eco-friendly one that doesn't have that gorgeous smell.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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God, I hate the EU...

No, worse than that...irked

Wacky Racer

38,361 posts

249 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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mgtony said:
Simpo Two said:
Ahh, creosote cloud9


None of this namby-pamby green water at £25 a tin! If it's environmentally friendly, it ain't gonna work - you need death, destruction and VOCs.
Would normally agree that anything without deadly chemicals aint gonna work, but on this I'll disagree. Please don't take a-fencehehe
The water-based fence stuff goes on a treat, no gloves needed, splashes on ya just wipe off and you can clean the brush in the kitchen sink!
Just give it a coat every couple of months.
EFA.

biggrin

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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MonkeyMatt said:
Dont use st wood! use oak or cedar! Not sure that helps?!
Good point. If it's a shed or summerhouse, cedar shingles look lovely, are easy to fix and last for decades (but can rot on roofs due to the shallower angle so I'd stick with roofing felt there)