Wooden side gate, what bolts to fix to wall's???
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I have recently purchased a 6ft tall wooden gate plus posts and hinges etc. and really wanted some advice on what type of bolt/fixings that I would need for the gate posts. Any advice would be most appreciated as I am not 100% sure and will look rather silly (in front of the wife) if the whole things falls down after I put it up.
Cheers
RM
Cheers
RM
the fixings for attaching the hinges for gate and post are fine, long screw type, which will be no problem. For me my concern is what to use to fix the posts to each wall. Bascially this gate is going one end of an alleyway. Concreting alas is out of the question. Previous owner put a gate at one end of the alley and fixed the gate posts to wall (rather than concreting posts in). Unfortunately I cannot tell what fixings were used. This new gate I have purchased is to sit at the other end of the alleyway, effectively blocking the alleway from view from my garden (its not a very pretty alleyway and is used for storing our bins etc.).
my choice would be something like this if it is going into solid concrete/brickwork
wedge anchor/ anchor bolts (you need right lenght of bolt though- to go through the post and into the wall)
drill hole at approropriate size for fixing, knock into hole and as you tighten it up it expand, effectively locking it into place
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detai...
wedge anchor/ anchor bolts (you need right lenght of bolt though- to go through the post and into the wall)
drill hole at approropriate size for fixing, knock into hole and as you tighten it up it expand, effectively locking it into place
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detai...
Edited by Brite spark on Tuesday 2nd June 18:57
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
Gingerbread Man said:
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
I personally wouldn't, fine for windows but I would rather have something stronger for a gate, yes it might hold it, but so could wall plugs and screws, a 6ft gate should have a bit of weight to it Edited by Brite spark on Tuesday 2nd June 18:54
Brite spark said:
Gingerbread Man said:
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
I personally wouldn't, fine for windows but I would rather have something stronger for a gate, yes it might hold it, but so could wall plugs and screws, a 6ft gate should have a bit of weight to it Edited by Brite spark on Tuesday 2nd June 18:54
IMHO anchor bolts would be overkill, frame fixings would be fine, use 5 or 6. You can get ones without the plastic just drill a hole and screw them into the brickwork. I've attached my garage door frame with them and they hold 2 2m x 1.2m metal doors (which are bloody heavy) with no problem
The trick is, i think, to ensure that the post is flush with the wall, any gap is going to lead to movement weakening everything
rich0411 said:
Spax do a frame fixing screw just pre drill and screw straight in, no plug required i would highly recommend them.
Me too, they are the RA fixings, drill a 6.5mm hole through both post/hinge and wall, then drive the Spax in. You will need a T30 torx bit, though. We also sell them individually. ;o)Gingerbread Man said:
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
Totally the wrong type of fixing.These will do fine http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws+Fixings/Sta...
V12Les said:
Gingerbread Man said:
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
Totally the wrong type of fixing.These will do fine http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws+Fixings/Sta...
King Herald said:
V12Les said:
Gingerbread Man said:
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
Totally the wrong type of fixing.These will do fine http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws+Fixings/Sta...
Use with blue plugs and they wont move. Same fixing as used with furfix.
V12Les said:
King Herald said:
V12Les said:
Gingerbread Man said:
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
Totally the wrong type of fixing.These will do fine http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws+Fixings/Sta...
Use with blue plugs and they wont move. Same fixing as used with furfix.
Thus it indicates he might not automatically know to use 'blue plugs' with those bolts, or what 'furfix' is.
If he were a builder me might instantly know these answers, but then he wouldn't have asked the question.
King Herald said:
V12Les said:
King Herald said:
V12Les said:
Gingerbread Man said:
Run a good few of these through the posts - http://www.screwfix.com/cats/101151/Fixings/Window...
Totally the wrong type of fixing.These will do fine http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws+Fixings/Sta...
Use with blue plugs and they wont move. Same fixing as used with furfix.
Thus it indicates he might not automatically know to use 'blue plugs' with those bolts, or what 'furfix' is.
If he were a builder me might instantly know these answers, but then he wouldn't have asked the question.
I am a very basic diy'er, I can put a lock in a door, put a shelf up, wire a light switch and change a tap but that is about my limit of experience. I have no commercial construction/building experience at all. So what are blue plugs, furry fixings etc?
Plotloss said:
I'd use shield anchors/rawls personally.
Though thunderbolts/multimontis as mentioned above could be an alternative I've just never had the guts to use them.
So with the anchor bolts do I just drill a hole through the post and into the brick/breeze wall to the diameter of the bolt and then screw the bolt into that hole, or is it a bit more involved than that?Though thunderbolts/multimontis as mentioned above could be an alternative I've just never had the guts to use them.
smifffymoto said:
You need a "Thunder bolts".Like hex head coach bolts but screw directley in brick/block.Fantastic they are and really easy to use
NOOOOOOO! I tried using these on my gate (as recommended by the supplier) and they were hopeless. I drilled the holes as per instructions, did everything I could but they just wouldn't grab. I presume I had the wrong type of bricks as the thread just crumbled the brick into powder.Got three rawl bolts and was done in minutes.
The the OP, be careful where you put the bolts through the post into the wall, the highest bolt on my post is below the hinge (schoolboy error) and has caused the post to bend away slightly from the wall at the top, causing the bottom corner of the gate to catch on the frame.
Romanymagic said:
I am a very basic diy'er, I can put a lock in a door, put a shelf up, wire a light switch and change a tap but that is about my limit of experience. I have no commercial construction/building experience at all. So what are blue plugs, furry fixings etc?
You'd do better to drill the wood post first, with a standard wood drill bit, then use that to mark the holes on the wall. Then you can drill them, starting with a smaller drill bit than you will need, as it makes it less likely to wander about.
Then you need something like this, but a pretty big one:
You tap it into the hole, then screw your bolt in, like this, but probably 6 or 7 inches long:
You'll need to ensure you get all the correct size bolts, Rawlplugs etc to match. Best ask at a DIY place, maybe B&Q, as they seem to employ people who actually know about DIY nowadays.
Or, as mentioned above, you could use some big ones of these:
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