Sound complaint on private land
Sound complaint on private land
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curtisl

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1,406 posts

235 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Can anyone advise me on the laws of sound limits on private property. A friend of mine has a bit of land out in the country and takes out his motorcross bike once or twice a week. Now his bike is not excessively loud but has had two complaints by a neighbour. He has moaned that it is not conducive to country life and wants him to stop. I can see his point but we can't hear the bikes from the house that is only about 200 yards from the track so i don't see how he can hear it from his house which is further away.

Are there any laws that state that there needs to be a sound limit to such activities on private land?

ETA: correct hear/here usage

Edited by curtisl on Monday 14th September 13:00

TooLateForAName

4,924 posts

213 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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There are rules about land use. Noise would be down to environmental health.

Potentially the land is classed as agricultural in which case the use of dirt bikes with that regularity is not allowed.

curtisl

Original Poster:

1,406 posts

235 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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TooLateForAName said:
There are rules about land use. Noise would be down to environmental health.

Potentially the land is classed as agricultural in which case the use of dirt bikes with that regularity is not allowed.
If the land is not used as agriculture would it still be classed as that? I know I would have to check most likely but I would guess that it had not been used as farm land for a good 20 years if not more.

wombat172a

1,458 posts

212 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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It will vary from local authority to local authority.

If the neighbour complains the LA can choose to slap the owner of the land / responsible party with a section 60 which will make it an offense to carry out noisy activities until argued otherwise.

My suggestion would be to have a word with your LA as to what their regulations are.

Jasandjules

72,586 posts

258 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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The Tort of nuisance may come into effect. Namely, is the person creating the noise spoiling the neighbour's enjoyment of his land. What time of day, how often he does it, is it necessary , the duration etc.. can all be taken into consideration (along with a number of other factors if the court decides to do so).

TooLateForAName

4,924 posts

213 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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curtisl said:
TooLateForAName said:
There are rules about land use. Noise would be down to environmental health.

Potentially the land is classed as agricultural in which case the use of dirt bikes with that regularity is not allowed.
If the land is not used as agriculture would it still be classed as that? I know I would have to check most likely but I would guess that it had not been used as farm land for a good 20 years if not more.
You'd have to ask, the land will have some classification and the chances of you being permitted to make lots of noise is low - especially if it is near houses.

Agricultural land is taken seriously by planning depts. I know of a property near me which has just lost an appeal re land use and is going to have to take up a driveway and remove some gates.

TBH if someone started turning up to bez round a field on a dirt bike near me, I would be complaining as well.

bosshog

1,797 posts

305 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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TooLateForAName said:
TBH if someone started turning up to bez round a field on a dirt bike near me, I would be complaining as well.
thats very tolerant of you.

PhantomHumper

2,202 posts

219 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Buy a tractor and drive past the guys house every 2minutes, see if he still complains.

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Silly suggestion time..

Get a really loud portable stereo and put it as close to the complainers house as possible when you want to ride your bike. Have the stereo play farmyard animal sound effects at full blast so he can't hear the sound of the bike.




Puggit

49,794 posts

277 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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WikiAnswers Hope that helps wink

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Hedders, I like your thinking.

This is a big problem in the dirtbike community and it isn't getting any better.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Sound travels in mysterious ways so the fact a neighbour who is further away is not a surprise. Neighbours of my parents had a party in a marque once, noise wasn't too bad at my parents, but the Police got complaints from miles away. Took them a long time to track down the source!

To be honest dirt-bikes and indeed any kind of noisy motor vehicle been driving on the same bit of land gets irritating after a while. I seem to recall the Police might have the right to seize bikes being used in this way.

I would try and discuss it with a neighbour, and come o some agreement about when and how often the bike can be caused. Nothing is going to be gained by any party if it is allowed to escalate.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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tell him to buy the biggest noisyest tractor he can find then fit the loudest exhaust possible and do agricultural stuff in his field!


T89 Callan

8,422 posts

222 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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bosshog said:
TooLateForAName said:
TBH if someone started turning up to bez round a field on a dirt bike near me, I would be complaining as well.
thats very tolerant of you.
Why would you be complaining? Live and let Live?

If it's not causing any actual problem then why complain?

TooLateForAName

4,924 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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If the noise was causing me a problem why shouldn't I complain?

Dirt bikers don't exactly endear themselves to people. Around us it is a common proble that people trespass onto farmers fields to use their bikes. Not surprisingly the local farmers are not too impressed.

I don't have a problem with people enjoying themselves, but their actions should not cause a problem to others.

Edited by TooLateForAName on Tuesday 15th September 09:09

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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he should start doing a combine harvester grand prix!


TooLateForAName

4,924 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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GReat attitudes here.

Start by causing a nuisance to your neighbours.

If people think this is out of order, what do we do? Create more nuisance.

Well done! Who needs to bother with any of that boring being responsible or mature?

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Aren't quad bikes classed as agricultural vehicles?

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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TooLateForAName said:
GReat attitudes here.

Start by causing a nuisance to your neighbours.

If people think this is out of order, what do we do? Create more nuisance.

Well done! Who needs to bother with any of that boring being responsible or mature?
It is known as Humour..


GTIR

24,741 posts

295 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Hedders said:
TooLateForAName said:
GReat attitudes here.

Start by causing a nuisance to your neighbours.

If people think this is out of order, what do we do? Create more nuisance.

Well done! Who needs to bother with any of that boring being responsible or mature?
It is known as Humour..
What is this "humour" you talk off?

scratchchin

Tell me more, like when would one use this "humour".

I am intriged.