any upholsters or furniture makes here?

[m3sye]

I have just moved house and my 3 seater sofa wont fit it in the front room. Its a large depth front room but the hall way is far to narrow to maneuver it in. Its to high to slide under the door, there is no window suitable to go through so I am kind of stuck what to do!!

Its similar to this http://www.dfs.co.uk/sofas/half-price/terri/207/29...

Does anyone think it would be possible to remove the material at the bottom of the sofa and take an arm off in some way ?? (last resort)

[Tampon]

( edited to add I just re read your post and you don't say that you bought it from DFS so those comments might not be valid to you, nor is that the exact sofa so there is a chance the arms should just come off easily by unbolting them.)

Hello buddy, I am a upholsterer ( Uxbridge Upholstery ), it is always possible to take the arm off.

First thing first, take the bottoming off and look to see if the arms are bolted on, from the picture it doesn't look like they are but you never know. There will be three bolts two easy to get to and one a bh ( it will be up near the top of the arm where it joins the back).

Failing that, you can take the arm off, what would need to happen is you would need to remove the leather from where the back goes under the top of the arm and where the seat goes into under the bottom of the arm a the front.

Expose the woodern railings, if you don;t see solid wood forget it, it won;t go back. Chop through the rail on the back of the sofa ( where you would rest you shoulders against), and the one directly under that and the two at the front. you will need to put in a support bar front to back next to the last spring to stop the springs just curling up and snapping the frame that they attack to. Whne putting back you can hold them together and put a support rail at the very least 1ft either side of the join and glue and screw it to the two pieces making it whole again. then just reverse the other thing you did.

If you want my honest advise, after fixing hundreds of these type of sofas, try and get a refund on the basis that it doesn;t fit and go and by one some where decent. That sofa you have bought "half price" was up for sale in units of 3 to me at £210 at the Furnuture show at the NEC in Birmingham, so god knows what price dfs was able to get with their buy ing power.

To give you a idea of what decent furniture costs i have a ash frame for a wing chair being dropped off and that will cost me £80. 1 hide of leather if bought in bulk would come in at around £70 for decent stuff and £40 for cheap crappy stuff. That sofa would need minimum of 2 hides without the cushion being in leather.

How they build those for such little money and make a profit from £210 i have no idea but I do know the "soft seat cushions" ie "white foam" will need someone like me to redo them in a year or so ( £60-75 a cushion ) and if a spring breaks ( they never put enough in, they cost 85p each in materials ! ) that is £120 and if the chipboard/sometimes cardboard paneling they put into strengthen the cheap frames goes that is £200 minimum.

great looking sofas, great price but they proper shonky underneath, bit like Chinese version of any modern phone ( n97, iphone etc ) they look like the thing but they are total and utter ste, they make people think they are getting a expensive sofa by pricing it sky high and then "discounting it to a price that still includes an massive margin. It is deceitful

Google DFS sofa repairs or try and find a blog fo some of the guys that do the repairs.

Sorry for the glum news bud

Ben

p.s. if you get a upholster round to do it expect it to cost between £100-£200 depending on what is involved

p.p.s if you have a crack and get stuck mail me some pics and I will see if I can help you out.

Edited by Tampon on Friday 13th November 13:18

[GreenDog]

I have to agree with above. I bought a 4 seater sofa last year from SCS, the cushions are shot already and we had an upholsterer round on Saturday to price up new filling. The frame also creaks when you sit on it. However the 2 leather sofas I bought from an independant guy over 5 years ago are still solid and in tip top condition.
I'll not make the same mistake again.

[Duke Thrust]

That's a good question, we have two antique Chesterfields that Mrs Thrust wants recovering. They're 3 seaters, can anyone suggest what I should expect to pay?

OP I had the same problem as you a couple of houses back, had to cut the arm off and then screw it all back together.

[Tampon]

Duke Thrust said:

That's a good question, we have two antique Chesterfields that Mrs Thrust wants recovering. They're 3 seaters, can anyone suggest what I should expect to pay?

Are the chester fields buttoned ? if so are they deep button ( pleated ) or shallow button ( no pleats ) and do they have cushions or is the seat fully upholstered ( and is that buttoned as well ) ?

Also what do you want them recovering in ? leather or fabric ?

[m3sye]

Hi "Tampon"

It was from DFS yes, it looked very similar, just different cushions and the arms curved out a bit (this is the problem)

I wont try to do it myself I know it will go wrong but Ill give an upholsterer a shout see what he can do.

P.S did you say the one in the pic was for sale for £210 - Can you get me one haha ??

PPS - oh and thanks alot for your help, you may just cheer my GF up...

Edited by m3sye on Friday 13th November 20:47

[Duke Thrust]

Tampon said:

Duke Thrust said:

That's a good question, we have two antique Chesterfields that Mrs Thrust wants recovering. They're 3 seaters, can anyone suggest what I should expect to pay?

Are the chester fields buttoned ? if so are they deep button ( pleated ) or shallow button ( no pleats ) and do they have cushions or is the seat fully upholstered ( and is that buttoned as well ) ?

Also what do you want them recovering in ? leather or fabric ?

Hi, one is buttoned (deep) the other isn't, both to be covered in fabric.

Thanks

[Tampon]

m3sye said:

Hi "Tampon"

It was from DFS yes, it looked very similar, just different cushions and the arms curved out a bit (this is the problem)

I wont try to do it myself I know it will go wrong but Ill give an upholsterer a shout see what he can do.

P.S did you say the one in the pic was for sale for £210 - Can you get me one haha ??

PPS - oh and thanks alot for your help, you may just cheer my GF up...

Edited by m3sye on Friday 13th November 20:47

Yeah I sell it to you for £880 notes no worries !

We don;t sell that type of furniture ( ub8.co.uk ) more higher end quality type. But when we are buying at the shows we see all of that stuff.

[Tampon]

Duke Thrust said:

Tampon said:

Duke Thrust said:

That's a good question, we have two antique Chesterfields that Mrs Thrust wants recovering. They're 3 seaters, can anyone suggest what I should expect to pay?

Are the chester fields buttoned ? if so are they deep button ( pleated ) or shallow button ( no pleats ) and do they have cushions or is the seat fully upholstered ( and is that buttoned as well ) ?

Also what do you want them recovering in ? leather or fabric ?

Hi, one is buttoned (deep) the other isn't, both to be covered in fabric.

Thanks

seats ? cushions or upholstered ?

To give you a rough idea the labour for a antique chesterfield with horse hair and coil springs, deep buttoned would be around £800-900 depending on the condition of it, for a more modern one with seat cushions not deep buttoned and more than like foam construction you are looking at around £400-500.

Don;t forget these are with out material and a rough guess you are looking at about 10 m per sofa,depends on cushions button or not etc etc but if you budget £1200 a sofa if they are old antique ones you won;t be far off and should come away with a drink n your pocket and if they are newer then £750 per sofa.

If you get a quote email me and I will tell you what i think and what you should ask for etc etc.

[m3sye]

Hi Tampon,

Just had an upholsterer around and as there is no bolts on the arms of the sofa he has said its a no go, he has said he would basically have to brake the frame and re-build it and it would not be cost effective to do it..

Can anyone go to these shows at the NEC and do you know when the next one is,I need a sofa cheap :-(

[Tampon]

m3sye said:

Hi Tampon,

Just had an upholsterer around and as there is no bolts on the arms of the sofa he has said its a no go, he has said he would basically have to brake the frame and re-build it and it would not be cost effective to do it..

Can anyone go to these shows at the NEC and do you know when the next one is,I need a sofa cheap :-(

The frame can be "broken" you can cut the rails as I explained, not many guys want to do it as it is like cutting and shutting a car, it can be done well and no problems but if they don;t know what they are doing they wont; know how to make the frame strong again.

The shows are trade shows, you could probably apply for a pass, they give them away like sweets.

problem would be you would have to buy 3-4 suites minimum and they would probably also want to vet your premises etc etc.

Liek most things with trade it is about bulk.

[Duke Thrust]

Tampon said:

Duke Thrust said:

Tampon said:

Duke Thrust said:

That's a good question, we have two antique Chesterfields that Mrs Thrust wants recovering. They're 3 seaters, can anyone suggest what I should expect to pay?

Are the chester fields buttoned ? if so are they deep button ( pleated ) or shallow button ( no pleats ) and do they have cushions or is the seat fully upholstered ( and is that buttoned as well ) ?

Also what do you want them recovering in ? leather or fabric ?

Hi, one is buttoned (deep) the other isn't, both to be covered in fabric.

Thanks

seats ? cushions or upholstered ?

To give you a rough idea the labour for a antique chesterfield with horse hair and coil springs, deep buttoned would be around £800-900 depending on the condition of it, for a more modern one with seat cushions not deep buttoned and more than like foam construction you are looking at around £400-500.

Don;t forget these are with out material and a rough guess you are looking at about 10 m per sofa,depends on cushions button or not etc etc but if you budget £1200 a sofa if they are old antique ones you won;t be far off and should come away with a drink n your pocket and if they are newer then £750 per sofa.

If you get a quote email me and I will tell you what i think and what you should ask for etc etc.

Thanks chap, will get some quotes and let you know

[Tampon]

Duke Thrust said:

Tampon said:

Duke Thrust said:

Tampon said:

Duke Thrust said:

That's a good question, we have two antique Chesterfields that Mrs Thrust wants recovering. They're 3 seaters, can anyone suggest what I should expect to pay?

Are the chester fields buttoned ? if so are they deep button ( pleated ) or shallow button ( no pleats ) and do they have cushions or is the seat fully upholstered ( and is that buttoned as well ) ?

Also what do you want them recovering in ? leather or fabric ?

Hi, one is buttoned (deep) the other isn't, both to be covered in fabric.

Thanks

seats ? cushions or upholstered ?

To give you a rough idea the labour for a antique chesterfield with horse hair and coil springs, deep buttoned would be around £800-900 depending on the condition of it, for a more modern one with seat cushions not deep buttoned and more than like foam construction you are looking at around £400-500.

Don;t forget these are with out material and a rough guess you are looking at about 10 m per sofa,depends on cushions button or not etc etc but if you budget £1200 a sofa if they are old antique ones you won;t be far off and should come away with a drink n your pocket and if they are newer then £750 per sofa.

If you get a quote email me and I will tell you what i think and what you should ask for etc etc.

Thanks chap, will get some quotes and let you know

Get those quotes and let me know, never know i might be able to beat them !