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theboyfold

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I'm starting to look into home security options at the moment as there have been a few breaks in around my way.

What I would like is something more than an alarm that makes a noise when somebody tries to break in. It's very easy for me to have remote access to the house, so a system that I can log into would be good. I also have a system that is able to record IP cameras.

However, I know naff all about this market so some pointers would be good smile

xllifts

3,724 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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You could use my ex missus she's loud abnoxious and scares the st out of everyone!


theboyfold

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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xllifts said:
You could use my ex missus she's loud abnoxious and scares the st out of everyone!
But I'm guessing she'll cost me shed loads of money!!

RichB

54,397 posts

301 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Well the obvious answer is a big dog but I don't suppose you mean that. smile

Westy Pre-Lit

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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If your thinking about a professionally installed security system then this might just be for you.

http://www.powermaxcomplete.co.uk/acatalog/New_Pow...

You can log on to it using your mobil, check the status of the system, set and unset it, listen in whats going on and talk through it. If fact it will probably be able to put your kettle on to make you a nice cup of coffee for when you get in using the right equipment.biggrin

And to top it off will even make a noise if somebody breaks in biggrin in fact it will call you and let you know. thumbup

Oh and its wireless so no wiresbiggrin

Unfortunately it's only for professional use, but as a guide, the basic kit with 2 Pir detectors etc should be around £400 - £500 tops fully fitted.

If you look on our website in my profile and become a member, we have put a user guide on there so you can see what it's capable of. You may need to update adobe reader though to see the PDF. Will be putting this link on the site later.

Hope that is of some use to you biggrin


Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Sunday 22 November 23:09

theboyfold

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
If you look on our website and become a member, we have put a user guide on there so you can see what it's capable of. biggrin You may need to update adobe reader though to see the PDF. Will be putting this link on the site later.
How do you become a member? I can't see anything other that the option to login...

RichB said:
Well the obvious answer is a big dog but I don't suppose you mean that. smile
Haha! Funny you should say that, we would love a dog, but we both work!!

xllifts

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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theboyfold said:
xllifts said:
You could use my ex missus she's loud abnoxious and scares the st out of everyone!
But I'm guessing she'll cost me shed loads of money!!
Yeah in Donuts and pop! hehe

Seriously though try these people for remote units through your pc, we are currently setting one up for the inlaws to be, and is a good bit of kit http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/CCTV_New_In...

Westy Pre-Lit

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Go to become a member.

Put in your details and email address ( don't worry it's just used to see who's using the site , you won't be contacted )

It will then give you a user code etc.

Click on the members area and put in the user No and password and it should get you there hopefully.

theboyfold

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I must be being extra stupid tonight as I can't see anything about becoming a member, only the option to email you to get an application form

Westy Pre-Lit

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Are you looking at the site in my profile, not sure i'm allowed to post a link.

theboyfold

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I was looking at the link you posted, not in your profile. Like I said I was being stupid!

Westy Pre-Lit

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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hehe

It may look a little complicated which is part of the reason why it is professional kit. An installer who is able to fit it will be able to talk you through it so you can understand what it can do etc.

Like I said you may need to update adobe reader (which we will be putting on soon) so you can read it.


Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Sunday 22 November 23:06

theboyfold

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I'm in and can read it fine.

It's not that simple! I'm trying to work out if it does what I want:
  • Remote access to turn the system on and off, also to get status updates and alerts
  • Window sensors to check for movement
  • Out going alerts if the alarm does go off
  • Internal motion sensors
  • I'd also like a couple of CCTV cameras that I can record and review remotely as well (I have box that I think will do this already so I might just need the IP cameras.
  • ETA I'd also like to be able to control somekind of lighting in the house with the alarm as well. Ideally link it to any of the sensors etc
Does the system you have linked to do all this?

Edited by theboyfold on Sunday 22 November 23:15

Westy Pre-Lit

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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It will do all that you have asked there except the CCTV part. I think it uses x10 units to turn lights on and off but so far we have never used them.

You will need a separate CCTV system to do that. Can't think of any professional kit right at the moment that includes all that in one.

Would be interesting to see if there is something on the market that does everything.

I think the Honeywell G3 series can possibly do something like this i.e. work as an alarm and CCTV system, but it won't be able to do some of the other options you are asking such as remote setting and unsetting and turning on and off lights etc as far as I'm aware. Would need to ask the question on that for you though as I may be wrong. Have only ever used the Honeywell G3 system as and an alarm and intergrated access control and enty system.



Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Sunday 22 November 23:35

theboyfold

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Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I'm happy for the CCTV and alarm / automation system to be seperate, there is very little to be gained IMO to have them all in one, sorry if I wasn't that clear in my post up above.

RobDickinson

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271 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Save your money and do nothing.

Police wont be inrested and the people breaking in will still egt away with eevrything they can, so better just pay your insurance and forget it.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Monday 23rd November 2009
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Funny you say that.

We had 18 break-ins in 5 weeks in a small area where I live. You may be surprised to know that not a single one with an alarm fitted got broken into. An alarm will never stop somebody who want's to break in but it will deter the chancer.

I know of quite a few houses that have been broken into to steal cars etc even when there is an alarm. As soon as it went off they made their exit.

Draw your own conclusions.thumbup

It's all about making yourself less of a Target than your neighbours and having a visible deterrent.

If you want police to attend then there are systems that can be used, but you a relying on the police to do their job and not the alarm.

You pays ya money and ya takes your choice. What is sad is that most people only look at their security once something has happened. The OP is being sensible in his outlook and should also look to physical ways of securing his property. biggrin

The Honeywell G3 system will only work as an alarm and can't run any CCTV through it. Don't know what I was thinking LOL...it was late. hehe


Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Monday 23 November 08:50

theboyfold

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Monday 23rd November 2009
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What do you know about the Risco Agility system? I've done a little reading about it and it seems quite flexible in what it can do, but I can't see a price on it anywhere.

stemll

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217 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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RobDickinson said:
Save your money and do nothing.

Police wont be inrested and the people breaking in will still egt away with eevrything they can, so better just pay your insurance and forget it.
Clearly you're not speaking from experience. We have an ADT monitored alarm and over the last 8 years, we've had 3 false alarms (two by leaving internal doors open and the cats getting into a monitored area and one faulty PIR) and every one has had a police response. Thames Valley allow something like 3 false alarms in a two year rolling period before they withdraw response. Even then, just need ADT to provide a letter to say that they have identified and rectified the cause of the false alarm and they reinstate it.

With two incidents of cars being damaged on the drive (both time next door's cars but it's a shared drive) I am considering an IR CCTV camera to cover it. One incident they removed the rear wheel and hub from his Astra and just last week put in the rear and side window of his Mini while ignoring our E Class parked about 2 feet away. Maybe he's upset someone?

Anyone any idea how much ADT charge for their CCTV not sure I can face them coming out and sitting through the sales patter if it's going to be significantly more than a DIY install.

Duke Thrust

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256 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Can anyone suggest a good DIY kit?