Moving an external door
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pmanson

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Tuesday 24th November 2009
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I'm guessing this is possible but I was wondering if anyone had an idea of the costs/work involved...

Our garage has a standard size at the rear of it that gives us access from the garden into the garage. At the moment this door is right in the middle of the rear wall which is causing me some storage issues as I want to get a car in there (along with all the other bits and pieces).

I have access along one side of the garage where a new door could be located which would allow me to use the entire width of the rear of the garage for storage/workbench.

Ideally if I could reuse the existing door that would be great but I expect it won't be possible. So the plan is:

  • Remove and then block up existing door/door frame
  • Create a new opening on the side of the garage and install a lintel/door frame and door
Any ideas on the cost/amount of work? I was thinking it would probably take a day's labour to complete + the costs of new bricks (and any new woodwork needed).

Busamav

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Tuesday 24th November 2009
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what is the dimension between the side of the garage where you want to put the door , and the boundary ?

pmanson

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Tuesday 24th November 2009
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It's a triangle... approx 2.5" wide by the main garage door moving out to about 5" foot at the other end of the garage.

Busamav

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Tuesday 24th November 2009
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pmanson said:
It's a triangle... approx 2.5" wide by the main garage door moving out to about 5" foot at the other end of the garage.
That may be why the door is on the rear. Garage walls within 1m of the boundary should be from fire resistant material

pmanson

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Tuesday 24th November 2009
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The garage isn't attached.

Hopefully these pics will explain...

It's currently here -



And I want to move it to this wall (slightly further back than the wheely bin)-



Otherside of the garage -


A rough sketch (angles are wrong) showing the option of putting in a lean to:


The brown door is the current location and I want to put it on the wall at the end of the garage block.

pmanson

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Friday 27th November 2009
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ColinM50

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Friday 27th November 2009
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Yes all looks pretty straightforward and much as you've suggested. A good day's work for one person, maybe a weekend at the most. The only thing I would say is that depending on which way your roof joists go, you may or may not need a concrete lintel over the door. If the joists run front to back then you DO need one, if they're side to side you'd be OK with a wood 4x2 above the door.

Personally if it were me, I'd support the roof joists on the inside, then using a big angle grinder/saw I'd cut out the new opening measured to exactly the size of the existing frame, then knock out the bricks. If you're not too rough with smashing the doorway open, see if you can salvage the bricks for re use on the old opening. Then build up the new door frame, position the old door in the new opening and brick up the old one. Of course it'd be quite a bit easier if you just bought a new door and frame and left the old door where it is but just don't use it any more. Take off the handle?

Oh and remember to re-position the light switch that I bet is just on the inside of the existing door.

Not a difficult job, satisfyingly messy and you'll end up at the end of the day convinced that you could make a living as a builder.


pmanson

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Friday 27th November 2009
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Believe it or not the ceiling is all insulated etc so no way of double checking. IIRC from when a neighbour did his garage the joists run front to back.

I'll probably put a lintle in just to be on the safe side!

eps

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Friday 27th November 2009
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the need for a Planning Permission application or Building Control submission for this...

Fatboy

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Friday 27th November 2009
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Seriously? Planning permission for moving a door on a detached garage?

pmanson

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Monday 14th December 2009
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I've managed to source a door for this for the price of a pint.

It is a glass UPVC door which will need to be tinted or frosted.

A friend has the tools to cut the bricks so all I need to source is the lintel and some bricks to brick up the old door.

eps

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Monday 14th December 2009
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Fatboy said:
Seriously? Planning permission for moving a door on a detached garage?
Why do you think not?

If you were simply replacing, i.e. leaving in place, then fine.

The OP will also need Building Control for moving the door..

It would probably all be fine, but all it takes is something to go wrong and then you'd wish that you had followed
the proper procedure.