Leasholder issuing notice for decorative repairs that are...
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...frankly not required.
Bit of advise needed. Just got a letter tonight from the management company for my block of flats stating that as part of the leashold agreement they are giving me notice they are about to undertake external and internal decorations to maintain the appearnace of the flats.
The thing is, each year we pay for a pot of money for this yet we are being told they do not yet know the costs and we may have to stump up for workt that is frankly not needed. How do I go about challenging and stating that I do not believe the work needs doing? Do I have to get the agreement of the other landlords too and approach them?
I'm amazed they are doing this, the building look new inside and out, recently landscaped and all roads only recently laid so I'm a bit confused as to what they are doing other than lining their pockets.
Bit of advise needed. Just got a letter tonight from the management company for my block of flats stating that as part of the leashold agreement they are giving me notice they are about to undertake external and internal decorations to maintain the appearnace of the flats.
The thing is, each year we pay for a pot of money for this yet we are being told they do not yet know the costs and we may have to stump up for workt that is frankly not needed. How do I go about challenging and stating that I do not believe the work needs doing? Do I have to get the agreement of the other landlords too and approach them?
I'm amazed they are doing this, the building look new inside and out, recently landscaped and all roads only recently laid so I'm a bit confused as to what they are doing other than lining their pockets.
no agm just a site manager that no one has ever seen. its only 12 flats (2 blocks of 6) and we get raped thoroughy over a lot of the costs. Yes we could buy ourselves out but is it any better going it alone? My main issue is that I am in the process of selling and after paying 3 years into a "pool" for scheduled maintainence I now want to know what I have to pay for. The place looks brand new inside and out on all communal areas as despite the flats being 4 years old the estate has litterally just been finished last year.
stigmundfreud said:
no agm just a site manager that no one has ever seen. its only 12 flats (2 blocks of 6) and we get raped thoroughy over a lot of the costs. Yes we could buy ourselves out but is it any better going it alone? My main issue is that I am in the process of selling and after paying 3 years into a "pool" for scheduled maintainence I now want to know what I have to pay for. The place looks brand new inside and out on all communal areas as despite the flats being 4 years old the estate has litterally just been finished last year.
We have a similar issue and it resulted in the managing agents being thrown out as the costs were ridiculously elevated in price and the actual necessity of the quoted work was questionable. My block is 5 years old.This is one of the reasons I hate owning a flat.
s at CPM Management is it?I am a Director/Leaseholder of a block of 4 flats, and apart from the Company Secretary I am the only other person/director that attends the agm.
Management Companies are only as good as the Leaseholders/Directors will allow them to be, with many Managements Companies ripping off leaseholders with fraudulent invoices/charges for works that have not actually been carried out. Also under legislation any works that amounts to more than £250 per Leaseholder, then the Management Company should seek a majority decision/approval for the works to be implemented. Again under the legislations, the Management Company should both obtain and submit to the Leaseholders, prior to the works commencing three quotations from reputable tradespersons.
In defence of the Management Companies many Leaseholders simply are not interested in getting involved in the management/maintenance of their leasehold block of flats, their only belated input is to criticise others for their efforts. Hence, why the same allows Management Companies to both invent fraudulent invoices, or to invent unnecessary work for their cronies to reap the rewards.
Personally involved with the management, I was seeing Invoices from Maintenance Companies that were travelling 30 miles to change an outside light bulb, or to re-wire a fuse holder charging £140 on each occasion to do the same. I also stopped one company putting scaffolding up to paint the outside of the building at a cost £3600, which the other Leaseholders/Directors had not approved. I cancelled the monthly attendance of the gardener during the winter and autumn months, the same who was charging £80 a visit.
The past 4 weeks I have been both felling and reducing the height of trees, together with weeding and general gardening, possibly saving the other leaseholders some £1500, none of the other leaseholders have even bothered to offer me a cup of coffee, or thanks for my unpaid efforts.
Prior to getting personally
http://www.rpts.gov.uk/our_services/rtba.htm
Management Companies are only as good as the Leaseholders/Directors will allow them to be, with many Managements Companies ripping off leaseholders with fraudulent invoices/charges for works that have not actually been carried out. Also under legislation any works that amounts to more than £250 per Leaseholder, then the Management Company should seek a majority decision/approval for the works to be implemented. Again under the legislations, the Management Company should both obtain and submit to the Leaseholders, prior to the works commencing three quotations from reputable tradespersons.
In defence of the Management Companies many Leaseholders simply are not interested in getting involved in the management/maintenance of their leasehold block of flats, their only belated input is to criticise others for their efforts. Hence, why the same allows Management Companies to both invent fraudulent invoices, or to invent unnecessary work for their cronies to reap the rewards.
Personally involved with the management, I was seeing Invoices from Maintenance Companies that were travelling 30 miles to change an outside light bulb, or to re-wire a fuse holder charging £140 on each occasion to do the same. I also stopped one company putting scaffolding up to paint the outside of the building at a cost £3600, which the other Leaseholders/Directors had not approved. I cancelled the monthly attendance of the gardener during the winter and autumn months, the same who was charging £80 a visit.
The past 4 weeks I have been both felling and reducing the height of trees, together with weeding and general gardening, possibly saving the other leaseholders some £1500, none of the other leaseholders have even bothered to offer me a cup of coffee, or thanks for my unpaid efforts.
Prior to getting personally
http://www.rpts.gov.uk/our_services/rtba.htm
stigmundfreud said:
thanks wings
this is OM and its like microwaving my head at times just trying to get through to them on the phone.
Google Section 20 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985 (amended)lots of advice and Tribunal decisions on Leaseholders appeals.this is OM and its like microwaving my head at times just trying to get through to them on the phone.
My block of flats once required the rear exit back door/gate repaired, one side of the door frame was rotten. Just entailed taking door/gate off it’s hinge, cutting in and fixing one side of the door frame, re-hanging door. Local (Bristol) carpenter days work £150-£200 at the max. No too easy, our last Management Company employed a Trowbridge Builder to fit a complete new door frame, door and prime, undercoat and top coat, then replace new perfectly working double locking Yale nightlatch, with another new perfectly working double locking Yale nightlatch. In the builders enthusiasm for earning money, they failed to leave new keys, so all the leaseholders had to be provided with a complete set of keys. Apart that there was nothing wrong with the lock, they never even gave thought of using the cylinder of the old lock, thereby avoiding the cost of having new keys cut. Took the builder two days and cost the leaseholders £856.00.
Yesterday I unblocked an outside 35 ft. asbestos downpipe, by dismantling the same and using drain rods, to let the Management Company organise such a repair, could not only take weeks, but be met with a similar type bill as above.
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