Putting in a new ceiling,
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CHIEF

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2,270 posts

304 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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I could do with a new ceiling due to a bit of water damage and it is slightly bowed, Its totally dry now but it could do with changing.

Its in my Kitchen about 12ft x 6ft (pokey i know)

Question is i'm gonna get a few quotes, is it a big job? i.e. will it end up costing hundreds?
Or is it pretty straight forward for the average builder/joiner?

Thanks chaps.


Muncher

12,235 posts

271 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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It's something you can do yourself pretty easily, just tear down the existing plaster board, nail/screw new board to the joists and get a plasterer to come in and skim it.

CHIEF

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Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Muncher said:
It's something you can do yourself pretty easily, just tear down the existing plaster board, nail/screw new board to the joists and get a plasterer to come in and skim it.
Mate i'm sure someone with a bit of nounce could do this but i'm feckin' useless at doing such things, i take it not a massive job then.

Ok, would be less than a days work for someone competant?

Cheers.

Muncher

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271 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Depending on the size of the ceiling I would expect 2 blokes to do it in a day. At least take it down yourself as much of the time is due to bagging up the bits and tidying up the mess.

VxDuncan

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256 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Having done this a couple of times myself...

Possibly, given a plasterer and labourer. How old is the house? This has an impact on it being either plasterboard (most likely if its late 1930s onwards), or lath and plaster, or even lime plaster for a really old place. Lath and plaster will take quite a bit longer to get down, and as it was more tolerant of wobbly joists may require a bit more work before the ceiling can be reboarded. It's probably a day to rip down the old ceiling, remove, reboard and tape the joints. Then a 2-3 hours to skim another day. I guess around 2-3 man days of effort so I'd call about £4-500 inc materials (about £40 if that)? That's a really rough guess though as I'm not a plasterer. As suggested if you rip it down and board it yourself it'll be about £20 in plasterboard and screws, then about £80 for a guy to come and skim it.

But don't underestimate the amount of dust. It will be with you for months. For this reason it might be worth considering overboarding...

CHIEF

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Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Its a 70's house so it would probably come down with a heavy sneeze.

4-500 quid!!!! I didn't think it would be that, still it shows how much i know.

VxDuncan

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256 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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CHIEF said:
Its a 70's house so it would probably come down with a heavy sneeze.

4-500 quid!!!! I didn't think it would be that, still it shows how much i know.
Might be less but my basic rule of thumb is about £200/day for a skilled tradesman, so hopefully not too far off. Might be wrong though, and it depends where you are.

CHIEF

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Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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VxDuncan said:
CHIEF said:
Its a 70's house so it would probably come down with a heavy sneeze.

4-500 quid!!!! I didn't think it would be that, still it shows how much i know.
Might be less but my basic rule of thumb is about £200/day for a skilled tradesman, so hopefully not too far off. Might be wrong though, and it depends where you are.
Oop North so i thought it would have been about ten bob.

I assumed it might be closer to the 300 quid mark.

SLacKer

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229 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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May I suggest overboarding it. No dust and will pull up the sagging as well.

Or have I just painted a bullseye on my forehead for others to shoot at wink

fido

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277 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Make sure it's reinforced with mesh, or whatever they use. Just got my landing redone and it was about £500 (including removing the old one). I would rather pay more for a good job - nothing worse than seeing cracks appear after a few months.

jas xjr

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261 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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SLacKer said:
May I suggest overboarding it. No dust and will pull up the sagging as well.

Or have I just painted a bullseye on my forehead for others to shoot at wink
+1

robinhood21

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254 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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jas xjr said:
SLacKer said:
May I suggest overboarding it. No dust and will pull up the sagging as well.

Or have I just painted a bullseye on my forehead for others to shoot at wink
+1
yes Or, if the offending pregnancy is not too large; cut out lump and patch with new plasterboard.

robsartain

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200 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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I have done some overboarding.... Im sure there will be many on here who don`t call it a proper job but personally I don`t see the issue.

The hard part is locating the joists, which can be done by digging into the old ceiling. Best to use a chalk line to mark where all the joists are.

Then put the plaserboards up...personally I use 6ft by 3ft 12.5mm as I find them more managable (.... espically on such a small space)

Fix them to the joists with dry wall screws make sure there long enough and you will need a mate to help you hold them in place just while you put a couple of screws in. Or you can use props (dead men) to help you.

then get the man in to skim it £200 tops...

CHIEF

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Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Hmmmm 200 quid i could live with.

Thanks for the pointers chaps

Appreciated.

Si 330

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231 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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A builder contractor I use has ceilings at £80 per sq m.

cjs

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273 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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jas xjr said:
SLacKer said:
May I suggest overboarding it. No dust and will pull up the sagging as well.

Or have I just painted a bullseye on my forehead for others to shoot at wink
+1
+2

Just whack some new plasterboard over the existing ceiling and skim, cleanest and cheapest way.

Edited by cjs on Tuesday 23 March 18:23

B17NNS

18,506 posts

269 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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The problem with tearing down the original is that it will be bonded into the walls (the ceiling will have been boarded before plastering the walls) increasing the risk of damage to the walls. Absolutely nothing wrong with cutting out the bowed section back to joists, board that, tape and skim.

It would take me and a mate 1 day.

Including materials £220